Easy theories on RP/I
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FOOL .......... posted 04-28-99 06:33 AM
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Many new bees get overwelmed with all the jive and just simply want wings. There seems to be no easy explainations to manys questions. But in taking into account what most are saying, I justed wanted to theorize a failsafe EASY way. Just plain bored tonight and can't sleep. Everyone please tell me if this is a pretty much on track. All comments welcome.

The simplisity and vividness of corran horns dream are a basis for this write up. I remember reading the easy push-pull method and really liked the idea for no escaping HI fumes and some pressure for quick times, yet hated most of that write up, especially that wash technic that would have to mainly of yeilded trashy stuff for sure.

• 2 clear beer bottles or clear wine bottles.
• A 5 to 10 foot clear braided pvc hose (hardware store plumbing stuff) that fits over the top of the bottles.
• 2 hose clamps.
• A hotplate or electric skillet.

• 3/4 part RP
• 1 part sudo
• 1 1/4 part I2

The idea is to have one bottle up high and the other reaction vessel low so the pvc hose acts as a condenser. Think in the terms of an upside down capital J.

Add 2 cc, ml, or gr of water to each bottle for a 7 to 30 g reduction. That is because only using a small amount of water keeps the HI concentration high for quick reaction times. The reason the upper bottle has a little water is so if the main reaction goes dry, the bottle can be tipped upside down to but some absorbed HI fluid back into the reaction bottle. Since this is a reduction and a by product of water is formed why would anyone delute the reducing effect by weakening the HI acid. My best guess buts it in the one hour to two hour tops with this pressure and HI concentrate. Plus the heat added to an already starting exotermic reaction of RP and I2.

Have setup made and ready and hanging before adding materials to reaction bottle and quickly sealing with hose clamp.

Heat up and let it go but don't bubble main reaction bottle over half full. Try to shake down off heat if it does but don't lose reaction. Add top bottle when starting to dry up in main reaction bottle quickly keep heat back on. Once bubbling brew starts to look clearer let cool. One to two hours.

My guess to anything that would screw up this type of reaction is to much water, losing the heat of the reaction or not having the eph or sudo washed (for type aquired) enough before starting.

Add water and then 6 good coffee filter papers filter out RP.

Lye out into toulene or coleman fuel. (If problems seemed to of killed the reaction, or lying out created trashy stuff; water wash, seperate and filter solvent before gassing.)

Use concentrated sulfuric acid drain cleaner and salt to generate gas. If the concentrated sulfuric acid is strong enough the gas doesn't have to be scrubbed dry.

Warning: This kind of proccess is known to leave bad, hard to crash, hungover feelings when one tries to stop.

Note: The more costly the cold medicine or broncule opener, the more of the right isomer of the stuff it has to control one's cold symtoms or breathing problems. That is the value and what everyone has been telling me.

Once the bubbling snow has been filtered, the fucked up attitudes that get thrown at this board should only be from that farce moral majority that want to control you into the institution of life that they control. The world isn't made for free thinkers when the rich fail to see a way to make a profit off it. So beware of what one does or feels or beleives in if it's different than the moral farts that rule with prisons and twisted ways of looking at the constitution. Beware because in my day over half the ones that swore to be cool and hip only take and steal and play the control game. The only info anyone here gives, is info that gets one hated. Now one has to learn how to hide or be slick and smart enough to avoid attention.

Why would anyone post anything good, it only makes one hot and the controllers more out to get them?

But each in their own way can piss in the wind or control the life one chooses. Good luck to all that love this chem stuff. Take wing and fly carefully.

If one improves the simplisity of this theory, share it when your finished with it, peace.

aFool

FOOL .......... posted 06-27-99 07:21 AM
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To answer one of my own old posts to run it to the top, just to help some wanting easy theories, it just don't get any easier. To me it's only theories because thats all I'm suppose to post, yet a birdie in the sky flew down and told me it's a fact if one can change a few things, like use 1 1/8 part I2 to 1 part eph. Use a 1 inch by 18 inch cleaned out flouresent(sp) tube above the reaction bottle. And boil for 2 to 7 hours(whenever the color looks right).

Funny how little birds seem to know the facts. Bird said it was killer diller yet only 33 to 50 percent yeild.

But I have a theory that's states doing anything under pressure is way to dangerous for most. This is where most should use every safety precaution they can think up. Yet I'm a fool and don't see myself being that safe, if this stuff wasn't illegal I would try to test this theory.

Don't be clueless, read what others are saying and find a safe way. This is just to give some an idea on how easy the birds think this chem stuff is.

Fly on,
Fool

Ps. Sorry everyone in throwing an old dead post back to the top, thought someone to lazy to search back might get an idea of what is going on.

Now this little half though out post is so dangerous to any clueless new want-to-bee it should of been flamed to death. If one tried to follow these theories without much knowledge I'm very sure one would get hurt and f**ked up pretty bad. This ramble doesn't contain anything very safe or detailed in it.

Bee careful knew bees on what you ask for.

This half ass post can get you hurt.

I am sure an old bee can figure what info it contains.

So bee able to study what many have to say, or blow yourself up or screw up your lungs because this bit of info can hurt you!

But it only points out things to make things easier to a knowledgable bee. Not someone that is clueless.

Read, read, read and see, see, see.

aFool, playing games.

Ps. If you don't know the true, then research up on it. We ain't dreaming of making meatloaf here. There are many well though out synths by more proffession types around here that have posted real good and clear stuff in the past few years. I suggest one research and find it. Or get hurt or screwed up pretty good (or is it bad).

OK.

Note: See the theories on the 'Cold method'!

last updated: 6/30/99