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Psychedelic Mania
LSZ & Cannabis
by hashhh
Citation:   hashhh. "Psychedelic Mania: An Experience with LSZ & Cannabis (exp102241)". Jan 7, 2018.

T+ 0:00
1000 ml oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine  
  T+ 0:00 150 ug oral LSZ (blotter / tab)
  T+ 1:00 150 ug oral LSZ (blotter / tab)
  T+ 1:00 500 ml oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine  
  T+ 2:00   smoked Cannabis  


Previous substance use: AMT, cacti, alcohol, cannabis, LSA.

8:00pm: Drank 2 beers and went to play pool with some friends and bros. Dropped 1st tab (150ug) of LSZ.

9:00pm: No real noticeable effects of LSZ, just a slight buzz from the alcohol. Drank a third can of beer and decided to drop another tab (150ug) of LSZ.

10:00pm: Still no real effects of LSZ...feeling a slight come up, excitement and more talkative. Then decided to smoke some silver haze (cannabis) spliff with some friends. It hit me hard and I got very stoned so we went back to the car. Usual paranoia of cannabis coming through.

11:00pm: Hallucinating especially with CEVs and also OEVs when I stare at a particular object it seems to morph into different random things. I notice a bush having small faces on it. Lights are brighter as we drive around. My friend and bro at the back are also tripping with 2 tabs of LSZ each. Both are tripping hard. The music in the car is just incredible.

12:00am: The effects of LSZ are still growing strong and hitting a peak. Music is amazing. Stuck in cycles of thought and massive negativity. The battle with bad thoughts and negativity is epic but also somehow enjoyable as I am able to be aware that it is only the influence of LSZ that is causing such thoughts and feelings. I also believe that smoking silver haze exponentially increased the paranoia and negative effects of the experience.
smoking silver haze exponentially increased the paranoia and negative effects of the experience.
Now I know why people say don't smoke weed with LSD.

1:00 - 4:00am: from about 1-3 am the peak is reached and its just amazing to listen to terence mckenna on this stuff. The psychedelic effects come in waves throughout the night. The whole time we have been driving somewhere and parking and then finding somewhere else to park. [Erowid Note: Driving while intoxicated, tripping, or extremely sleep deprived is dangerous and irresponsible because it endangers other people. Don't do it!] During the tail end of the trip. My bro and I discuss how we were going through the same feelings but we didn't communicate it properly with each other. He explains how he went through hell most of the night as he couldn't come out of the negative thought loops that he was stuck in. I explain that I also experienced extreme negative bad thoughts but I was able to pull away from them cause if you try to fight to stay sober it will only make it worse which he explains he tried to do.

Letting go is basically the key to enjoying the experience otherwise it's an epic struggle to fight one's demons. Overall I had an amazing experience on LSZ. It truly is powerful in its own right. For someone relatively new to the psychedelic experience perhaps mixing the cannabis with LSZ wasn't such a good idea but all in all I would have to say the experience was very interesting and enjoyable. Although I felt slight nausea and stomach discomfort at the tail end of the trip.

Exp Year: 2014ExpID: 102241
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 27 
Published: Jan 7, 2018Views: 1,606
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