Citation: optolopto. "Met a Vast Godlike Intelligence: An Experience with 2C-B, Alcohol & Cannabis (exp102371)". Erowid.org. Aug 18, 2019. erowid.org/exp/102371
Primary substance: 2c-b
Secondary substances: alcohol, cannabis
Categories: mystical, difficult, combination.
Dosages, previous day:
T-21h LSD (half tab, approx 90 ug)
T-21h -- T-15h alcohol (beers, several; somewhere between 3 and 5 litres)
T-16h (?) cannabis (smoked, joint) (?)
Dosages, the day of the experience:
T-05h -- T+00h alcohol (beers, 3 or 4 half liter cans)
T+00h 2c-b (oral, 1 pill, advertised as 18-20 mg)
T+01h (?) cannabis (smoked, in a joint, less than 0.1g)
T+?? alcohol (beer, 1 or 2 can)
Some background: I started using psychedelics about 9 months before, now feeling moderately experienced with LSD, mushrooms, DMT, 2c-b, amphetamine, and MDMA. Furthermore occasionally used cannabis (for a bit more than 15 years), and very experienced with alcohol.
At this point I had tried 2c-b four times, the same batch, same dosage, except one time I took double the dosage (2 pills, with 1-2 hours between the two). The pills (advertised as 18-20 mg; white, with the text '2cb' imprinted) came from a source I consider reliable. Unlike this experience, the previous four ones were not at all overwhelming - I would even say somewhat boring, in spite of similar circumstances (alcohol consumption, hangover, LSD the day before). A possibly important difference is that this time I was at home, alone - while I have tripped quite a lot alone, or around people I didn't know, I don't usually do it at home (the primary exception being DMT).
The previous day we were at a concert, consuming several beers, and, in my case, approx 90 ug of LSD. In theory, 21 hours later this shouldn't have a strong effect, but you can never know.
After waking up, I don't recall feeling the effects of LSD anymore. In the early afternoon, I drank a beer; then a friend (who slept over) left and I drank maybe 2 (possibly 3?) more beers. At 18:00 (denoted as T+0h above) I had the bright idea of eating a 20 mg 2c-b pill, so that I have some extra fun (based on my previous 2c-b experiences, 'some fun' was entirely plausible).
Unfortunately I cannot recall the full details or order of events after this. First I watched videos on youtube. At some point I smoked a joint, made from what I estimate must have been less than 0.1g of cannabis (smoked half of it first, the other half later). The 2c-b came up rather strong, much stronger than previous occasions. Apart from the visual distortions, one funny effect I noticed that basically I made - I had to make - a new decision every second, about what I will - what I have to - do next, each one overwriting the previous decisions. I couldn't really control these decisions. This effect lasted very long: about 18 hours later it was still quite noticeable.
At a point the effects of 2c-b became strong enough so that I went to my bed, lied down and closed my eyes; after which it hit me with full power. What I experienced there was most similar to the effects of DMT, or maybe high dose LSD CEV visuals, but somewhat different and even stronger if that's possible.
I suddenly met something which I can only describe as a god-like, really vast intelligence(s) - pure consciousness, without any material part. Note that I was a very resolved atheist my whole life (and also have a PhD in science), so as you can imagine meeting something which was basically a god was rather shocking to me. The only somewhat similar experience I had was one time on DMT while drunk (plus some LSD the day before, so in that sense somewhat similar circumstances), but those entities were just aliens from alternate dimensions, definitely not gods, and this experience was even stronger in any case. At that point all I was able to do is to bite on my bedclothes while being lost in either my mind, or the universe, or both. A bit later (?) I cried a lot very loudly, because meeting this entity made everything else, including myself, completely unimportant. Thus my first (and at that point, only) question to this entity was that why the fuck do I exist at all, what's the point, if such greater intelligences exist out there? It was an utter, complete ego-death - my complete existence, the whole human existence seemed totally pointless. Somehow I was also very sorry that I didn't realized the true nature of the universe earlier. Later I fell back to this crying stage several times.
During all this, in the background a promo video of a goa festival played on my computer. All the words, the music, basically all pieces of information had a hidden, true meaning behind them
All the words, the music, basically all pieces of information had a hidden, true meaning behind them
- whatever they said in the video, it contained the answer to the question which was on my mind at that point of time. Though these answers were quite funny - they were answers very unlike what I expected, I didn't fully understood them, but somehow I still understood their essence while not really understanding them. This effect, too, lasted very long: in a bit weaker form I still had it next morning, even 18 hours after I consumed the 2c-b pill. It also worked with physical objects, written text (I read a lot next day), basically anything. It tapered down to hard-to-notice levels late next day (T+24h), and completely disappeared the day after. Again, I once experienced something similar while on DMT (of course that only lasted a few minutes), but there the overlayered meaning was unidirectional communication, not answers to my questions about the universe.
According to chat logs, I was over the peak and able to use a chat program at T+4h, but some of the effects remained until T+18h, even T+24h (I slept meantime). I was a bit calmer, more accepting of my existence, having more questions and getting more answers (which I didn't understood of course).
Summary: First DMT showed me the alternative dimensions; then it even showed me some aliens. And now, among all drugs, a moderate dose of 2c-b showed me something which can be best described as god, or at least a god-like form of consciousness.
Conclusion: It now seems plausible to me, that while each psychedelic drug has its own characteristic effects, in some sense they all behave the same: they just open our mind to either a hidden part of our brain, or to a hidden part of the universe (or maybe both).
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