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Warm and Cold at the Same Time
by leinad
Citation:   leinad. "Warm and Cold at the Same Time: An Experience with 3-Methylmethcathinone (exp102508)". Erowid.org. Sep 5, 2016. erowid.org/exp/102508

T+ 0:00
2 glasses oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine  
  T+ 3:15 170 mg oral 3-Methylmethcathinone (powder / crystals)
  T+ 3:15 50 mg insufflated 3-Methylmethcathinone (powder / crystals)
  T+ 3:40 100 mg oral 3-Methylmethcathinone (powder / crystals)
  T+ 7:00 3 glasses oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine  


I think of myself as an educated, rational-thinking guy, that is very curious in substances that alter the human mind. I try to keep my consumption habits in a moderate range and reflect my drug taking pattern to stay physically and mentally healthy.

The Substance I took was declared as 3-MMC, its look is crystalline (bigger and smaller 1 to 3 mm crystals). Color is mainly white, some crystals (the bigger one) look lil yellowish. Ground up, it looks like grinded table salt/the yellowish colour is now completely gone.

After trying the substance nasally, which gave a slight push in mood and energy but lasted too short in my opinion, I tried it at a birthday party the first time orally.

+0:00 Before going there I weighed about 170 mg and took it with me. After 2 beers, I waited about 40 minutes to get an empty stomach then dissolved the powder in a cup of water. The taste was sour and a little bit bitter, but nothing really awful, like MDMA.

+0:10 nothing, not even the slightest sign of getting on. But as I know from MDMA, the best thing is to wait minmum 1 hour before redosing the substance.

+0:25 I recognize some first signs, but nothing really strong.

+0:30 We are taking a group photo, I am sitting on the couch and everyone is preparing for the photo, when it suddenly hit me.

It was a coming up like MDMA; not the effect but the way I feel the coming up. So I was sitting there, everyone around me, and suddenly felt totally amazing. I was looking around with a little disbelieve that the effects where so strong. The effects where a mix of the clear feeling of cocaine, the energy of speed, and the warm fulfilling excitement of MDMA. This sounds probably like the best drug ever, but the effect were split, so in someway they are cancelling each other a little bit out.
Not THE fulfillment of MDMA because of the feeling like Cocaine. So I am not getting the special mystical empathy of MDMA. In the other direction, the clear feeling and the energy are influenced by the MDMA-like calmness and the cuddle feeling.

+0:45 So I was really on, talked like a chatterbox to my friends and was automatically the guy who was telling funny stories an the party. I had a great time.

+1:30 But after one hour the effects where easing, but I was still in the mood, talking to people and had a great time.

+2:30 the effects where now on a level, I consider not as a high. I was just with a little bit more energy, but my need to communicate was back to normal.

+3:00 now the effects turned from beeing in a good mood to a slightly depressed feeling
+3:00 now the effects turned from beeing in a good mood to a slightly depressed feeling
. But I think not the hangover was there, no it was just the fact that I am sad because the high is gone.

+3:15 The party was far away from over and I decided to take a small nose (about 50mg).

+3:20 But against my expectations, my mood was not in party mode again. Despite a redose, I suddenly felt nervous, and a little bit uncomfortable. I got cold limbs a dry mouth and recognized that I had a nervous jaw.

+3:40 Because I really don't want to stay in this state of mind, I redosed with approximately 100 mg orally.

+4:00 I was fully surprised because my mood was really up again. The high was clearly nothing like my first roll, but I got really comfortable again and enjoyed the party until the end.

+7:00 After my last redose, I consumed about 3 more Beers. Communication was easy, and I enjoyed myself. The coming down this time was not that hard. Probably because I had some more beers, but I think its because this way:

Falling from a bigger height down to the ground you will feel more pain. So if I intercept the first comedown with a small redose, the level of the drug will rise again, but just a little bit on the positive. Imagine coordinate system where x is time and y your welleeing... So if I am getting in a hangover, the function is going down really fast, a little redose is bringing the graph to a turn before it reaches its maximum negative value. It will not go up high again, but I am feeling comfortable again, and the next comedown will be weaker because the graph when it's turning into the negative direction again will not go down that far... This always-smaller redosing, works perfect for me.

+8:00 I found sleep, earlier than I expected

Exp Year: 2013ExpID: 102508
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 25 
Published: Sep 5, 2016Views: 8,204
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