Citation: fx1. "Too Far Out: An Experience with 4-AcO-DMT (exp103160)". Erowid.org. May 10, 2019. erowid.org/exp/103160
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I'd like to preface this by saying I love tripping hard. Intense, long lasting experiences that leave me very fulfilled, and not wanting to trip for an extended period of time. Not in a negative way, but rather needing more time to reflect on the experience.
One day, I prepared two 50mg 4-AcO-DMT doses. I usually like redosing to extend my trip time, and also if I'm not tripping as hard as I want to, I can change it.
0:00 - I dose 50mG
0:20 - I start seeing things, feel a bit strange, have to lay down.
1:30 - I peak, and I find I want more. I dose another 50mg.
2:30 - Things were getting a little bit more intense, and then....
I forget to breathe.
Everything becomes EXTREMELY intense, reminding me of what people say about smoking DMT. I then realize I forgot to breathe, and from there on it's a struggle to just live. Alone.
WORDS are not the right thing for this experience. Psychedelic experiences in general are hard to describe with words, but this is almost impossible to describe in words. I dosed a similar, 77mg before and found my thoughts, my mind, had spatial dimension to it. This is even more intense, by a factor of 2.
There is no ego here. Time means nothing - nothing means anything! Nothing I see is recognizable.. Everything was one. My experience of reality was confined down to a single point.
My quilt which is 5cm in thickness, looked kilometers thick.
I close my eyes, and I see the most incredible things.. I saw faces, similar to that of psychedelic artwork. I'm hearing voices talking to me.
Far out sounds cliche, but I now KNOW what it means. I've been there.
As amazing and incredible the visuals were, I simply could not see them. My mind was so deep into thought it just didn't matter, my senses were almost irrelevant, or at least becoming a single entity.
My mind was out of my body.
I was at peace. My body may have not been, but it didn't seem to have much connection to my mind.
6:00 - Things are starting to subside..
It's still very very intense, however. I got lost in my room..
For SIX hours, i would get so deep into my mind I would forget to breathe. I feel really happy, and want to tell everyone I love them. At this point, my mind was using something other than words to think...
At this point, I am incredibly happy. During the peak, there was a lot of crying, and it was in some ways scary. The time distortion was so vast that I felt as if I was no longer tripping, even though I was tripping harder than I have ever have. I was pretty much used to and accepted this reality.
8:00 - I fall asleep, tripping quite hard...
16:00 - I wake up and I'm still tripping....
The only way to get through this experience is to breathe.
It's basically meditate or die. (Actually, just pass out, but I didn't know this at the time, oh how i wish I did!)
I did not know what I was getting into when I took this. However, I'm glad I did it. I learned so much, and am still learning from this trip. I'll probably spend the rest of my life reflecting on it.. When I got into psychedelics, this was the experience I was looking for. I got it. And now I am content. and have HPDD :)
About forgetting to breathe - as I said, I've never had this problem before. I've dosed 77mg before, and did not have this problem. I recently tried to trip on a much lower dose, and I forgot to breathe and had a flashback. Very unpleasant..
In spite of this, I'm still glad I did it. It's what I wanted.
Psychedelics alter my thought patterns.. Perhaps, by tripping hard I am only very deep into those thoughts, but they are the same thoughts I would have if I were tripping very light.
Perhaps less really is more.
Another is the well known key to psychedelics, and life,
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