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An Atheist Meets God
4-Aco-DMT
by Jacob P.
Citation:   Jacob P.. "An Atheist Meets God: An Experience with 4-Aco-DMT (exp104997)". Erowid.org. Oct 30, 2017. erowid.org/exp/104997

 
DOSE:
60 mg oral 4-AcO-DMT (powder / crystals)

BODY WEIGHT: 260 lb


Unfortunately I lost ALL track of time during this trip but I would say it lasted about 5 hours. I was able to fall asleep while still getting really intense OEV and CEV.

Around 2:00 am I dose 60mg (possibly a little more because I licked some off the scale) and prepare for my trip. I roll a few joints that I end up not smoking as I wait for myself to come up.

I start to feel it so I lay down and put on some Pink Floyd and stare off into space. After about forty minutes after taking the substance I start to feel it, and really fast. I was tripping so hard that I couldn't even tell what the peak was because it was all so intense. I lay there for about an hour and I started getting the craziest CEV of people dying and then turning into flowers. when I open my eyes I would see inexplicable patterns and colors.

I am someone who trips frequently enough to know what I was getting into, but about 1 hour after full on tripping I begin to get a little scared because the fog outside was so intense that it made the outside look completely white. I start to worry that my room is the only thing left in existence so I go outside to make sure thats not the case. After seeing my neighborhood I come back inside and continue my trip.

At this point my trip takes a really weird turn. I have the most real OEV I have ever had in my life. It is a lion standing at the foot of my bed but he is all cool colors. Lions are my favorite animal and I am a big cat enthusiast so I was not scared in the slightest. Everything about this lion was so real that it was mind boggling- I trip all the time but never do I see living and breathing things in my room that should not be there.

I ask him what he is and what he is doing here and instantly I can hear his voice in my head. He tells me he is here to help me and that my life is doing downhill. We have the deepest conversation on what I need to do to become a more honest person and how to give myself a better life. He tells me I need to take a break from weed- that its not a bad thing per-say but it's inhibiting me from living to my current potential. He assures me that Ill be able to come back to it someday.

Me and this cool colored lion continue to discuss my life, the world, and other things like that.
Me and this cool colored lion continue to discuss my life, the world, and other things like that.
Eventually I ask him straight up if he is God. He laughs and asks me 'Do you even believe in a god?' and I tell him that I have never been sure but that I always go with what I can see and feel. That without proof there is no reason to believe. He tells me that Christianity and other religions are purposefully misleading and that he is what humans would consider a god but he also told me that he isn't the only one and that some are not good.

He tells me that humans really have no idea what's beyond this life be he assures me that there is something and that everyone goes there good or bad. He said it isn't like heaven and it's more of a struggle than this world. Also he did move around a bit and what-not. When I tried to touch him he backed up and told me that it wouldn't work and that I would just coax myself into believing he is a hallucination if I started testing my senses on him.

At this point I start to doubt him. I feel this all too surreal. I tell him if he is really god to prove it. He tells me he has little to no power over this world but he could do one thing to prove he was real. At that time my cat breaks into my room by slamming its weight on my flimsy door hard enough. My cat comes into the room and looks straight at the cool colored lion and then gets on its back and starts pawing at him. The lion makes itself smaller and starts playing with my cat.

What.The.Fuck. Is all I can think over and over again. Eventually my cat jumps onto my couch in my room and curls up into a ball. The lion and me talk a little more about this girl I really like and me quitting weed. He tells me he can't really do much besides give advice but that he would be watching over me and that when I die he will be waiting for me to 'show me the ropes' of the next world.

Eventually he tells me he has to go but that he is really proud of me and he knows that I am going to do great things in this life. I asked him if I would ever see him like this again and he told me not in this world, I started to cry a little bit for some reason and then he walks up to me and touches me (I can feel the weight of his paw) with his paw. I am filled with this over overbearingly powerful happiness that I can not explain, It was like the feeling of knowing someone loves you. (If you knew me you'd know that I feel like a complete weirdo for describing it like this but it is really how I felt.)

I forgot to say that my tv was playing a 3 hour kaleidoscope video on repeat with the volume off. He jumps into the tv so that he is actually standing in the middle of the screen disrupting the video. He disappears and I am left feeling really freaked out.
I still don't know what to believe. I really can't figure out what happened. Usually when I trip even large amounts it just makes me see more fractals or more tracers- even crazier CEV but this was all with my eyes open. In the end he told me that if I wanted my friends to believe me that I would need to set an example for them and be a good person. And also quit smoking pot for awhile.

So today is my 2nd day not smoking weed and I plan to go for a few years. I have been smoking daily since I was 12 years old so I am really surprised how easy I am quitting something I love so much. Hands down the most life-changing experience of my life. I'm not sure if it was really a 'god'. But I can say that it was the most spiritual thing of my life.

I don't think I will take into any mainstream religions but I believe I have some serious thinking to do on spirituality.

Exp Year: 2014ExpID: 104997
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 21 
Published: Oct 30, 2017Views: 3,336
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