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Overcoming Terrible Opiate Withdrawal
Kratom (after Heroin)
by deephouse412
Citation:   deephouse412. "Overcoming Terrible Opiate Withdrawal: An Experience with Kratom (after Heroin) (exp106668)". Apr 18, 2018.

  oral Kratom (ground / crushed)


Background: I started using different opiates about seven years ago. I started with low dose pharms and slowly moved onto harder substances. Then I tried a maintenance program with therapy and suboxone, which is being touted by doctors and pharmaceutical companies as the go to for opiate addiction. Suboxone, in my opinion is being over prescribed, both in dose and in length of time. You are trading one addiction for another. The withdrawals last a very long time, and if I dont properly wean myself down to about .25mg can also be pretty bad.

Not long after I weaned down to .125mg I quickly jumped back on the 'H' train. After two years of what I thought, at the time, was hard work was actually a huge, expensive, facade. Suboxone only helps cravings as long as I am taking it.
Suboxone only helps cravings as long as I am taking it.
Opiate naive people will get extremely sick if they take too much. Although much better than methadone, it is NOT the silver bullet doctors and the pharm companies are making it out to be.

After a very short relapse, I was already getting sick again. I'd heard of Kratom and that it could be used for opiate withdrawals. Truly not wanting to continue living the way I was, I bought some. I took 7-9 grams for nine days straight and quickly stopped. It made what should have been a terrible experience, and turned it into a cake walk. Still some anxiety and sleeplessness, but nothing more. 95% of withdrawal symptoms were gone.

I dosed once a day in the morning and that was it. I believe I would have slept if I dosed in the evening as well, but I wanted to be free of the hell I was living in and did not want to trade one substance for another. I stopped after the nine days and PAWS quickly showed its face. Depression, apathy, insomnia. I was miserable. Opiate addiction rewires the brain. Most no one becomes an addict overnight and it is very difficult to stay clean after making the decision get clean.

Kratom is great for a number of reasons if you are in the spot I am in. I now ingest 3-5g about once or twice a week.
I now ingest 3-5g about once or twice a week.
I dont crave it when I dont have it. Its not running amok in my mind 24/7 like heroin does. Any time I feel like I'm on that edge, about to 'make the call' I dose a moderate amount of kratom and it quickly passes.

Prolonged use, from what I've read can cause withdrawal symptoms, so I am very careful to skip at least three days before ingesting more. I have not experienced any side effects from this herb.

I highly prefer Kratom over any other program. I've never tried Ibogaine or rapid detox so I cant attest to those. I truly believe this herb will save my life. I am 60 days free of being tethered to a substance today.

I am very experienced with opiates, although I wish I wasnt. My last piece of advice would be If you are on a high dose of Suboxone or Methadone, you will need to get your dose way down before getting on a Kratom regimen due to the very long half life of these drugs. I would go with weaning, but if I wanted to go through the hell, cold turkey until it is unbearable and then starting with the Kratom. I would not go cold turkey with methadone.

There are alot of different strains out there, some that could make me more exciteable, which I don't want when detoxing. I'm not a doctor, just an addict. Definitely do some independent research. Everyone is different. Kratom was, and is, a miracle for me.

Exp Year: 2015ExpID: 106668
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 31 
Published: Apr 18, 2018Views: 2,766
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