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Interaction Nausea
Kratom & Cigarette
Citation:   Omnis. "Interaction Nausea: An Experience with Kratom & Cigarette (exp106776)". Erowid.org. Jul 18, 2020. erowid.org/exp/106776

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
2 capsls oral Kratom (ground / crushed)
  T+ 0:00 10 mg oral SSRIs (pill / tablet)
  T+ 0:00 1 capsl oral Vitamins / Supplements  
  T+ 2:00 2 capsls oral Kratom (ground / crushed)
  T+ 5:00 2 capsls oral Kratom (ground / crushed)
  T+ 5:30 8 capsls oral Kratom (ground / crushed)
  T+ 0:00   oral Vitamins / Supplements  
  T+ 9:45   oral Naproxen  
  T+ 9:45 8 capsls oral Kratom (ground / crushed)
  T+ 9:45 one half smoked Tobacco - Cigarettes  
BODY WEIGHT: 163 lb
10 AM

▪ Two (tightly packed) size '000' capsules of 'Premium Maeng Da Kratom' (mitragyna speciosa) - Please note: Size '000' gelatin capsules measure about .5 gram per capsule (i.e. about .5 grams of kratom per capsule)

▪ 10 mg Vortioxetine Hydrobrombide (Brintellix)

▪ 1 Capsule of [supplement]

It began... a typical day for me, that is. Before getting started, I feel that it is important to note that I am not your average person. I used to be, and am no longer dependant upon heroin (diacetylmorphine). So, the standard way that I choose to feel: i.e. my standards/my preferences, are a lot different from 'Joe Blow' down the street. I do this on a daily basis. And it is working for me... to each their own. I will say this: I have stayed off of heroin for some time now and I attribute a lot of that to the help of kratom. I believe that it is an excellent form of alternative treatment for the harm reduction, and daily maintenance of opiate addiction. I have really weaned my average daily dose of kratom down as well, which I am quite proud of. I do still deviate from the my average daily dose as you will see here, but I tend to come back to it the following day. My average daily dose is 2 capsules of premium maeng da mitragyna speciosa 4 times a day.
My average daily dose is 2 capsules of premium maeng da mitragyna speciosa 4 times a day.
This seems to be as low as I'm comfortable with going to at this point, but maybe sooner or later I'll whittle it down to 1 capsule 4 times a day. We'll see...

Now then, I got myself together by following my usual routine: becoming ready for my day by utilizing the benefits of medicines and supplements to 'ease things along' and make the world a more tolerable, albeit enjoyable, place to live. It takes a little time to digest (... the medicine silly!!), but basically after my morning shower, I begin feeling rather nice: full of pep, charisma, sparkle, and energy. I'm ready to take on the world... for now.

Noon

▪ Two more (tightly packed) size '000' capsules of 'Premium Maeng Da Kratom' (mitragyna speciosa)

Note: I really hadn't even been awake long enough to need a 2nd dose, but I figured, 'Meh, what the heck... might as well keep a good thing going.'

3:00 PM

▪ Two more (tightly packed) size '000' capsules of 'Premium Maeng Da Kratom' (mitragyna speciosa)

The day was moving along nicely. I was getting things accomplished that I said I would. It was a good day. Then a little bit of a lackluster feeling hit me and I thought, 'Well this could be better since I just got a new strain why not add some in to brighten up my day even more.

3:30 PM

▪ 8 capsules Kali Maeng Da Kratom (same size as the others)
▪ 1/2 Scoop PreWorkout

I ate a small snack and then the Kali began doing it's thing. It was nice. I went further into 'the zone' and time passed rather quickly. Before I knew it it was already around 5:30 PM. I decided to take a nice long walk.

7:45 PM

▪ 3 x 500 mg naproxen sodium for mouth pain
▪ 2 x (Acetaminophen 250 mg, Aspirin 250 mg, Caffeine 65 mg) for mouth pain
▪ Lidocaine/Prilocaine applied topically, orally for mouth pain
▪ 8 capsules of red veined borneo kratom

I came home and ate something a little more filling. I was experiencing a lot of pain and stress so I did my best at attempting to self soothe. I basically drew a nice bath and relaxed as much as I could waiting for everything to kick in. It finally did and the pain was muuuuuuch better. I no longer felt stressed or ready to claw my own face off. Progress!

9:30 PM

▪ (No Dose/Nothing Taken)

I got in bed and read some of 'From Chocolate to Morphine' and browsed the web a bit on my phone. I went to sleep for a little bit, but then woke up.

3 AM

▪ .5 a Cigarette

Now for the reason I decided to write this. The funny thing is that I got on this whole writing tangent for another reason... I have had it happen to me over and over, yet I never seem to learn. I smoked a cigarette after mega-dosing kratom and I got sick to my stomach with nausea
I never seem to learn. I smoked a cigarette after mega-dosing kratom and I got sick to my stomach with nausea
, but luckily didn't actually blow chunks (this time). Right after smoking that damn cigarette I was dizzy, hot, sweating, and very uncomfortable with an overall feeling of malaise. I promptly drank some water and took off my robe because I was so hot. I had to just lay on the floor for a moment feeling sick and try not to move. Then, when I could get up I stood in front of the fan in my room for a while. It eventually got better. For about 10 min it felt like an eternity. It was a huge rush, I felt unpleasantly high. It was horrible. That was why I chose to write this. Me being an addict, I later smoked the other half of the cigarette to see if it would happen again, but it didn't this time... only a mild nausea that time. A tolerance must have developed rather quickly. I don't normally smoke cigarettes. I think this was the first one I'd had in about 3 weeks.

This DOES NOT happen when I consume my typical regimen of nasal snuff tobacco and/or vape (my mouth has hurt too much for me to vape because of the nature of the sore in my mouth so that wasn't a factor in this instance). What I am describing ONLY happens to me with cigarettes.

An interesting side note: The reason I have pain in my mouth is because I ordered some betel nut and edible lime and proceeded to mix 1 part lime to 3 parts betel grounds in an attempt to catch a buzz. All that happened was that I basically chemically burned the inside of my cheek and gums. Soooo awful! Not sure what exactly went wrong there, but I won't be trying to do it again. Eeep!

Exp Year: 2015ExpID: 106776
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 29
Published: Jul 18, 2020Views: 1,124
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