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Further Trials
by CallMeGhost
Citation:   CallMeGhost. "Further Trials: An Experience with 4-AcO-DET (exp107686)". Jan 28, 2016.

T+ 0:00
5 mg oral 4-AcO-DET
  T+ 0:15 1 cig. smoked Cannabis
  T+ 0:30 5 mg oral 4-AcO-DET
  T+ 1:00 10 mg oral 4-AcO-DET
  T+ 1:45 5 mg oral 4-AcO-DET
  T+ 5:45 5 mg oral 4-AcO-DET
  T+ 0:00   oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine


This is CallMeGhost with another trial of 4-AcO-DET.
Joining me on this journey is my friend 'E' who is about the same height as me, but he has more body mass (more muscle, more stocky than I) he is about 180-190 pounds, and a year younger than me. Both test subjects are Hispanic in heritage.

We dosed 4-AcO-DET at approximately 8:45, 9:15, 9:45, 10:30 and 2 am. Each redose has been documented. This was my second 'tolerance trial' and it seems 4-AcO-DET has a steep dose curve and a very quick tolerance build up.

At approximately 8:45 'E' and I orally ingested about 5mg of 4-AcO-DET. After about 10-15 minutes we both noticed a slight tingly feeling, and I noticed we were both smiling really big (the feeling this one gives is a really nice one, I felt empathic, but more so than on anything else I have tried to date). At the 15 minute mark, I asked if his two brothers were at their house next door so I could see if they wanted to try it as well. They never answered the door, so I smoked a joint, which seemed to amplify the trip slightly. After that joint (E does not smoke marijuana), I took another 5 mg (+30-45) and so did E. We started watching TV (more of background noise since E and I have been friends for 10 years) and chit chatted for a while. We also drank 4 Modelo Especials, over the course of 5-6 hours (sipping them mainly, no hardcore chugging)

The conversation was mostly start and stop, he'd ask me a question and then 2-3 minutes later I would remember I was asked a question, answer it and ask him something. At 1 hour, I noticed the effects were not too strong, and we took 10 mg, which started to kick in about half an hour later.

We started noticing things about the characters on TV, and for some reason we both tended to 'side' with a female character and wonder why the male character was acting the way he did. We saw a show 'The Middle' and for some reason we both empathized with the parents (neither of us have children) but we felt their emotions, for me it seemed there were flashes of oily light, like if someone was happy, the light would be warm. If they were mad or upset, it would be cooler like a blue or bluish purple. I also noticed pinpricks of light in the walls and basically everything. Just imagine the night sky, but the stars are inside the house on the walls instead. E was smiling the whole time, and told me it made him feel really good. Really really good and happy. We tried to redose once more about 5 mg at around 2:30 am, and after about half an hour of the same buzz and no increase I decided to put everything away.

Tolerance sets in really fast with 4-AcO-DET and after all the redosing, we never got more than above a +2. Adding weed to the mix kicked it up a notch, if I had better weed it probably have kicked it up a lot more. The alcohol, at the slow rate of ingestion seemed to make the come up smooth and keep the buzz riding, I ended up not feeling 'drunk' or waking with any kind of hangover (I do not drink very much at all) E is about my height but has more weight on him (muscle mass and some of the pudge Mexicans can be famous for lol) and his effects were very similar to mine.

My last meal before the trip was about 3 pm, and by the time I tripped I had an empty stomach. I felt no gastrointestinal distress as I did on my previous experiment with 4-AcO-DET.

E had just eaten some noodles or pasta, can't remember which, but he didn't have a completely empty stomach. Around 3-4 he had to take a couple trips to the bathroom, and complained about stomach problems. He did say that the stomach problems did not outweigh the effects, and he would like to try it again, as it made him feel really good.

Conclusion: 4-AcO-DET seems to be a very strong empathogen. I feel that part of the reason we redosed as much as we did, was because the empathy we felt was so strong and warm feeling.

Exp Year: 2014ExpID: 107686
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 30 
Published: Jan 28, 2016Views: 3,526
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