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Fish Out Of Water
Citation:   NMDAstronaut. "Fish Out Of Water: An Experience with 3-MeO-PCP (exp107713)". Jan 20, 2016.

125 mg oral 3-MeO-PCP (capsule)
[Erowid Note: The dose described in this report is very high, potentially beyond Erowid's 'heavy' range, and could pose serious health risks or result in unwanted, extreme effects. Sometimes extremely high doses reported are errors rather than actual doses used.]
Two days ago, my friend accidentally ingested 125 mg of 3-MeO-PCP with only a handful of experiences ranging from 5-15 mg ingested at a time. He thought it was 4-fluoroamphetamine, which is a substance he is very familiar with taking, but the cases were mixed up by the seller, and 3-meo-PCP was put in a capsule at 125 mg rather than 125 mg of 4-FA. I received a call from my friend saying what he realized had happened, and went over to his place to sit and guide him comfortably through the experience. This is the story.

DISCLAMER: This is between 8-12x the amount of a moderate to large dose for those who are not familiar with 3-meo-pcp or disassociatives, and would be considered a toxic dose and should be treated as such. In a normal situation, it is advised to seek professional medical care at an emergency room.

+0 min - 10 pm 1/5/2016: Capsule was ingested by individual, weighing 142 lbs at 6 ft. 2 in.
+45 min: I received the call from my friend, saying he thought he had ingested something other than 4-FA and suspected the mix up. I quickly went over to help him figure it out by talking to his dealer. After we figured out the timeline, he attempted to throw up what was left in his stomach (which likely wasn't much).

+1:30 hr: We considered taking him to a hospital around this time, but after research on PCP acute toxicity made the decision to ride it out with him and keep him calm realizing there was nothing more a hospital could do besides monitor his heart-rate and blood pressure periodically as well as fluid consumption and excretion. I was able to do this with medical devices I have possession of from my time working in a metal health facility as a mental health tech.

+3 hr: He became fully textbook catatonic, similar to extreme negative symptoms of schizophrenia: extremities tensed up, loss of sense of self and environmental recognition. He was unable to respond to me for a good 8 hours. During this time, I had to stare at him to keep him grounded and restrain him to prevent him from getting up in a stupor too quickly and potentially hurting himself, which he attempted to do quite often. Blood pressure was 124/90 with sympathetic palm sweating and static facial expressions. I was able to capture a video of monitoring at this point on my phone.

+8-12 hr: He was becoming subverbal at this point, responding with either 'what', 'yea', and 'no'. I was keeping him in check, reminding him what had happened--that it was only the temporary effects of the drug and he will be fine in a number of hours. He said my arms and head were 'massive like a mountain', and was claiming to be able to zoom objects in and out of size.

He is still heavily under the influence at this point, with no sense of time, self, or others. He was urinating and drinking. He became discontent with the experience, expressing the desire for it to end. I was reminding him that it was only temporary, keeping him as calm and collected as possible on his bed, which wasn't difficult at all.

+14-16 hr: He was able to move and stand, while still being extremely disassociated
+14-16 hr: He was able to move and stand, while still being extremely disassociated
from what he was sensing, while the aforementioned symptoms readily declining in degree. He was then able to rest for 4-6 hours.

+20-22 hr: Pretty much coherent and ate his first full meal. Was able to recollect what was happening with the experience and talk about it with me on a completely functional level. This is a write up of his experience at this elapsed time:

>>'Idk if I can exactly describe it through text, but essentially my brain was caught in a loop with what I could only see with my eyes and other senses. The crazy thing is how distorted things were in terms of scale. My bed frame seemed as if I was in a valley and it was a mountain when I was laying in it. This led me to believe that consciousness can exist without a sense of time or interaction. It was like I was only able to take in what I could see with no sense of self or memory. Luckily I called Will (OP) and he was there to help me, but even at one point I convinced myself that he was a manifestation of my mind in this altered reality. It was a crazy experience to be sure, but it taught me one very important thing. Life is what you make it, nature hit a singularity in creating our species in that we can process and visualize the world with more complexly than anything else, but most importantly it's our ability to memorize experiences and what we take from them that makes us who we are. Disassociatives and more specifically NMDA antagonization take away this filter and allow it to run wild. I was like a fish out of water, and while I was coming to I was sinking back into the water as the drug was wearing off.'<<

+24 hr: Fully relaxed and playing Fallout 4 with complete gain in motor function and verbal fluency. Qualitatively feels really great and seemingly on a strong afterglow.

The most interesting qualitative expression was that he was claiming to be able to manipulate matter and objects, zooming them in and out within reality. This is described by patients with acutely high PCP overdoses, but his ability to reason what was happening on a basic level--coupled with my input of it being a hallucination and disorientation/disassociation--was allowed with 3-meo-PCP and usually isn't with PCP to my research.

Exp Year: 2016ExpID: 107713
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 26
Published: Jan 20, 2016Views: 7,782
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