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Strong and Centered
4-AcO-DET
by Domain
Citation:   Domain. "Strong and Centered: An Experience with 4-AcO-DET (exp108052)". Erowid.org. Mar 5, 2016. erowid.org/exp/108052

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
10 mg oral 4-AcO-DET
  T+ 0:30 7 mg oral 4-AcO-DET
  T+ 4:00 15 mg oral 4-AcO-DET

BODY WEIGHT: 180 lb


4:00

Set up well for an experience. Home is clean and organized, I'm well rested, hydrated, and had a light lean protein and healthy fat-heavy meal a while beforehand. Maintained a decent exercise routine throughout the past week with some breathing techniques, yoga, and quarterstaff Tai Chi mixed in. Mostly content with my life without any strong lingering/pressing concerns, and have aired out the headspace some with lots of writing through the week.

Already tested for adverse reactions with a small dose. Dosing now solo on what's been reported to be a mild amount.
Already tested for adverse reactions with a small dose. Dosing now solo on what's been reported to be a mild amount.


+~0.010g

+0:30: Feeling a little fuzzy. Still mentally clear and even clearer than normal, but in terms of pain/anxiety/body buzz, a little fuzzy. Music is enjoyable, but any enhancement is very mild. More of a relaxed and expansive headspace that accentuates whatever is already there. It seems relatively tame, in the sense of neutral, but honest and warm. Honest in the sense of not suggestive of a direction to the trip.

+~0.007g

+1:00 (4:56): Deepening experience...still not super intense but very noticeable. Sitting in a warm bath in a dark bathroom with incense going. Immensely relaxing. Senses are heightened, but a little softer around the edges than can be present with intense trips. Soon forget about any stressors of the week and ease willfully into a clear and moderate euphoria. Lingering slight jaw tension and headache from pre-trip dissolve away. Move back to the bedroom after 30 minutes or so. Enjoying laying in bed with the sensation of floating weightless.

+~3:15 (7:13): Comedown. Really pleasant headspace. Difficult to type because I'm mildly ecstatic in the novelty sense of finding a new and very agreeable tryptamine. Hopefully this will sustain for a while, as it's very neutral and gentle, but very strong as well. Low on visuals, heavy on mental clarity, relaxation, acoustic qualities.

8:00: Roommate is now home. We talk for a bit, eat a little etc. She then doses a couple of grams of powdered mushrooms in orange juice to interestingly strong effects. I redosed 4-AcO-DET with about 0.015-0.020 around 8:00. Very strong and clear. Strong to the point of the semi-common and often unsettling strong trip occurrence of a brief moment of persistent deja vu for a few minutes or so at maybe an hour or so in. Enough to shake my equilibrium briefly without impacting the overall stability of the trip. Despite a strong epistemological shake, it was very forgiving and easy to come back from that point, and take the trip in a desirable direction in a smooth manner. Even managed to maintain a meaningful conversation throughout the brief mindfuck.

Watched some comedy to great effect, then Mandelbulb visualizations on a 12' projection screen... extremely impressive. Very strong sense of depth/volume to the image. Light on additive visuals, strong on neutral mood lifting effects, mental clarity, and improved natural sensory function. Lots of deep felt laughter, and ability to enjoy the moment. Very quick, clear, and flowing mental function, but with a background of general mental stability aside from the brief 'did I take too much?' moment from the deja vu and slight mania. Part of mania attributable to the realization that I now have a large stash of very therapeutic and potent allies at my disposal. Strong enough to likely be scary if entering unprepared, stressed, etc. although that comes with the territory. Lasted as before, about 3-4 hours.

Comedown was beautiful, little headache, body load, or any hangover type effects. Watched Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust on projection screen during comedown. Able to get strongly immersed in the environments/ambiance while retaining the ability to maintain conversation and follow most of the plot without any effort.

This is a beautiful substance, in my limited experience. I personally would prefer this over the natural form, 2nd only to maybe a half and half mix. This particular substance, based solely on the past 12 hours or so, reminds me of a blend of psilocybin and MDMA, though more clearheaded, and not overly entactogenic. Will definitely be dipping back into this in a week or two after I've let this experience percolate.

I will close with saying that I am seemingly predisposed both to weak trips, and to less visual trips even when strong. With that in mind, the less visual nature of this (to me) may not be fundamental to the substance. It is definitely potent, though, with 0.010-0.020 being likely a safe territory, adjusted according to level of preparation.

Exp Year: 2016ExpID: 108052
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 28 
Published: Mar 5, 2016Views: 3,750
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