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Bittersweet Times
by Bema
Citation:   Bema. "Bittersweet Times: An Experience with 4-Chloroethcathinone (exp108163)". Erowid.org. Apr 25, 2016. erowid.org/exp/108163

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900 mg oral Pharms - Divalproex (daily)
  T+ 0:00 66 mg insufflated 4-Chloroethcathinone (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:38 1 smoked Tobacco - Cigarettes  


Substance taken at the time: 4-CEC, negligible amount of alcohol (1/3 of a small champagne glass)

Other substances: 900mg of depakote daily for the past year (Bipolar disorder)
I was on an empty stomach, last meal was about 5 hours before dosing.


The day started out as usual. Spent most of it at school, didnt have much work and wasnt especially tired. After coming back home I had to get ready for a short meet-up for a friends birthday, and overall had a really relaxed day.

I was back home from the birthday at about 10 pm, in a honestly shit mood as the party sucked but at the same time it was a good friend and I didnt want to leave early. When I came inside I reminded myself I recently picked up a package containing a few different chemicals from a legal rc chem vendor. Since no one was home and all information online suggested the effects are rather short, I decided to give it a go. In the package I had .2 g of 4-CEC. As I had no clue what this chemical does exactly, because it came as a bonus in the package, and because I have zero experience with any drugs aside from weed and alcohol
I have zero experience with any drugs aside from weed and alcohol
, I decided to check it out online on a few forums. Users reported that the effects were negligible to none, and most of them had taken doses in the range of 100-200 mg. As I'm usually cautious when it comes to messing with drugs, I decided to take a dose lower than what most people reported taking, so I split the 200 mg into three piles, put one of the piles on a weight and weighed about 66mg out.

22:10 - weigh out the 66 mg, made a nice thin line and sniffed it all in one go. I thought it was pretty smooth, it didnt burn as everyone else reported it burning

22:11 - My nose, somewhere behind my eyelids and the whole right side of my face are in annoying but bearable pain. I'd describe it as a big pressure with mild burning. Nothing too hard.

22:13 effects are slowly coming on, my senses slowly sharpen and even though I'm at this point unaware of it, I was experiencing slight stimulation. I was walking around the house emptyminded, trying to 'walk off' the annoying pain. I also remembered users reporting an awful taste when the powder goes through the nose into the throat so to prepare I poured myself some coke and went to my room, and set some music on.

22:20 Effects are halfway to the peak, burning is gone. I can feel the powder getting ready to evacuate my nose and enter my throat. A strong bitter taste can be sensed in the back, but looking back I had no idea what was going to come next

22:22-3 huge gulp of the most bitter thing I have ever tasted enters my mouth. It's seriously incomparable to anything I've ever eaten ( and I've tried licking my own shit as a kid) or imagined. I try to drink coke but I quickly realize that's not going to help. I decided I'll just puke and spit out the powder so it doesnt go to my stomach (or at least not in its entirety) because if it burned that bad in my nose and tasted that awful it has to be in some way even worse for the stomach. I have to say that the need to puke wasnt massive, I was able to take my scarf and hoodie off before. I probably couldve held it in if I tried.

22:25-6 I finish puking and immedietly rush to wash my mouth. This is when the peak set in. My senses were on otherworldly levels (note that I have no comparison with other stimulating substances, my only comparison is with weed and alcohol both of which dull the senses in comparison with this) while washing my teeth I was never that gentle and focused. I was doing everything pretty slowly, and with much more care than usual. It was by far the most enjoyable time I've washed my teeth. When I began to spit out the toothpaste, I felt as if my face was following and stretching out with the toothpaste. My face as a whole felt as if it were warping, which I found funny, but not in a giggly/stupid way as I would find any perception change on weed.

As I finished washing my teeth, I wiped my face and went on my phone. The urge to talk to someone was unbearable at this point. As I looked at the keyboard, which is normally predominantly white, I noticed colours pulsating and changing, mostly into reds, pinks, purples and at one point green. What surprised me most was that I was completly normal in the way I perceived this. My mind was in a really analytical mode, much more than usual, and as I saw the colour changes I simply noted it off in my brain as one of the effects without paying much attention to it. And on the last note, my perception of time was really weird. Time seemed to go by really fast, but at the same time it was going real slow (a second felt like an hour but a reaaaaly speedy and quick hour if that makes any sense)

22:30-35 - the peak is over by now. I put on a vinyl of my favorite rapper on. Music sounds good, but not psychodelic like it does on weed. It sounds much clearer, but in a way it is fuzzed out (I couldnt pay attention to the lyrics much). I really wanted to talk to people, but I remembered people report writing stupid shit on stimulants, so instead I put my phone out and had small monologs in my head about the high, noting every aspect, thinking what the effects on brain chemistry might be etc etc. If there was a really prominent effect I felt I couldnt help but note it out out loud. Thank god I had the house to myself (or not, if I had somone to talk to I probably wouldnt talk to myself). At the same time I was dancing a bit to the music, but the essential motivation behind that was just to move. I was definetly stimulated.

22:40 - almost completly over. Since I sensed it dissapearing I decided to use the last bits of the high to unload the dishwasher. I did so suprisingly quick (and no dishes broken ergo coordination was not impaired) and was in a really positive mood. Actually, scratch that, I was constantly grinning to myself, I was in an amazing mood.

22:48- effects practically over. Smoked a cigarette. Still in a great mood. Big mental need/craving for a redose. I could see myself getting addicted to it if I wasnt cautious, since it lasts so short ( 30 minutes) but is so fun, and most importantly legal.

23:00- back to normal. I couldve probably fallen asleep then, which is a great plus as many other stimulants cause insomnia.

00:40 - strange feeling, as if the high was coming back on, may be because the drip has been reabsorbed through the stomach

1:00- goodnight

Overall I have to say it was an amazing experience. I could see myself trying this again with a couple of friends over with us all taking it, talking and just goofing around, but it has zero party-drug potential for me. The short duration, Ungodly drip, and irritating burn make it almost impossible for me to take it in a party setting, especially because it would require so many redoses. Also the incredibly devilish bloodshot red eyes are a clear indicator of being high and I dont like to be known as 'that one junkie'.

As for negative side effects, I have to say there were none aside from the red eyes., horrible drip and burn. I was surprised to see no vasconstriction signs, nor bruxism which I was expecting from reading trip reports of stimulant drugs.

Exp Year: 2016ExpID: 108163
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 18 
Published: Apr 25, 2016Views: 13,137
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