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More Useless Than Mild
Leonotis leonurus & Leonotis nepetaefolia
by Synapscape
Citation:   Synapscape. "More Useless Than Mild: An Experience with Leonotis leonurus & Leonotis nepetaefolia (exp108584)". Erowid.org. May 26, 2016. erowid.org/exp/108584

 
DOSE:
  smoked Leonotis leonurus
    smoked Leonotis nepetaefolia

BODY WEIGHT: 65 kg


Summary of Different Dosages

I found my wild / klip dagga experiences to be fairly decent. There are some reports that describe dagga as mild or placebo. I would say the effects, that I have felt, are more useless than mild.

There is no strain or potency control for wild / klip dagga like there is for cannabis so I wouldn't be surprised that some low quality stuff is going around. Plants are classified poisonous by some botanical literature. There is lethal dose for rats. I wouldn't treat them lightly. Wild dagga is illegal in my country while klip dagga is still legal. I mostly use klip dagga now because the effects are similar.

Background
I am not daily drug user. I don't smoke cannabis at all, only use psychedelics and dissociatives infrequently. I don't drink alcohol, not even beer.

Duration
~30 minutes smoked.
~2 hours oral.

Effects
These are the effects I have felt from smoking strong wild dagga 50x flower extract (resin).

Low dose (below 5mg).
Mild and meditative effect. Similar to very low dose cannabis. Everything seems nicer and more interesting. If I am doing something I don't feel much unless I am sitting calm and try to relax.

Medium dose (5-20 mg)
Lightly stoning effect. There is definitely something going on. The headspace is mildly weird. Slight time dilatation. The moments of forgetfulness. I dream away and than suddenly start to realize again where I am and what I am doing here. I start to feel weak and lethargic, especially at the end of experience.

High dose (20mg and more)
The effect start to feel 'toxic' to body. Runny nose and eyes. Diarrhea isn't uncommon. Walking becomes inflected and feels weird. Psychological effects are still the same as medium dose but a little bit stronger. I become so lethargic that I find hard to do anything. Mild visual changes that aren't psychedelic. Waving effect to peripheral vision.

There can be hangover or negative after-effects the next day if dagga is taken too much and in high doses. I feel very tired and unwilling to do anything next morning. Mild headache.

The plant is also effective orally but I need 3-4 times higher doses.

In general I found the effects to be useless but they are definitely there. I would classify the plant as sedative / dissociative. In high doses effects aren't strong either but are uncomfortable. Feels more toxic than cannabis.

Exp Year: 2016ExpID: 108584
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 24 
Published: May 26, 2016Views: 3,329
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