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The Buzz
3F-Phenmetrazine
by Mr._A
Citation:   Mr._A. "The Buzz: An Experience with 3F-Phenmetrazine (exp108632)". Erowid.org. Jun 3, 2016. erowid.org/exp/108632

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
70 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:15 80 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:35   oral Coffee (liquid)
  T+ 0:40 90 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 1:05 80 mg insufflated 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 1:05 180 mg oral 3F-Phenmetrazine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 2:30     Benzodiazepines  

BODY WEIGHT: 57 kg


T+0:00 - Insufflated 70mg in small bumps. My nose hurts, but the pain subsided quickly. Main reason I got this was to see if it was euphoric, and to a lesser degree to use it for productivity.

T+0:05 - Dat drip, slightly increased heart rate, and very sweaty palms and feet (nervous system response).

T+0:15 - Insufflate another 80mg in bumps. RIP in piece my nose, my eyes are watering and nose is running.

T+0:20 - Slight tingling sensation for a few seconds around head, definite stimulation, not bad so far I guess. Feel some increase in stimulation and motivation, but most of that drive is just going into writing this.

T+0:25 - Put on some fast paced tunes, which sound slightly better, but mainly just add to the *experience*.

T+0:35 - I make myself a coffee as I get the idea that it may improve it some, underwhelming so far.

T+0:40 - I Insufflate another 90mg. I'd guess that most of the compulsive redosing is due to an attempt to chase the lacking euphoria.

T+0:45 - Awful pain behind the eyes now, heart rate is up but with no anxiety, and a very synthetic tasting drip. If I were to compare the nasal pain to something I would say it is like behind hit in the face with a snowball on a freezing cold day!

T+1:00 - Okay fair is fair, I will say the buzz is decent, but nothing like good ol' Amphetamine Sulphate (Speed).

T+1:05 - Insufflate 80mg. Wash down 180mg (the remainder of the stuff) in water. Cannot believe I've burned through my whole stash (500mg) in one sitting!

T+1:15 - Not bad! definite tingling sensations and pretty good euphoria, it's like every movement (such as stretching, washing dishes, exercising etc.) feels good. Increased heart rate but no anxiety. When it comes to 'taking away' personal problems, I would say this is comparable to alcohol, in that respect.

T+1:35 - Good rush, good euphoria, great stimulation. Start to multitask like crazy, and the stimulation feels 'disorganized' in the sense that I want to do multiple things at once, there's just so much to do! However this means I didn't really get anything productive done, but if you can focus that energy onto one task I'd imagine this would be great for productivity.
I'm listening to music, whilst fapping, and gaming all at once right now!

T+2:00 - Energy crash, but high is going okay.

T+2:30 - Depression/total crash

///After effects: Over the next few hours I had felt deeply depressed but my thought process was still mostly positive, so I just reminded myself that this would pass just like any other comedown...

Well it wasn't that simple. My mood improved somewhat after those few hours, but even after *several days* I still felt markedly depressed. I felt hopeless, passively suicidal, worthless, and in a 'dark' place. I also took on a very Nihilistic stance toward everything, no amount of positive thinking could overrule my intense belief that everything was meaningless (which in turn added to my passive-suicidality). This was unusual as the 'crash' from regular Speed/Amphetamine tends to only last a few hours with some anxiety, then I'm back to baseline, whilst 3-FPM was a week-long comedown on and off.
the 'crash' from regular Speed/Amphetamine tends to only last a few hours with some anxiety, then I'm back to baseline, whilst 3-FPM was a week-long comedown on and off.


The depression and negative thoughts also felt *real*, as if they came from a natural source as opposed to a comedown. I also took a benzo to comedown, for the record, so perhaps that had something do with it.

The amount I took (500mg in one session) and compulsive redosing (overdose?) obviously had something to do with long -standing depression, however it's hard to say if the drug itself (3-FPM) had anything to do with it. Maybe my case was just an anomaly.

///Conclusion: The buzz and stimulation it gave was great, and it's good for productivity as I just had so much excess energy to use: if I had balanced my dosage/timings better, and if hadn't taken so much in total, the comedown *may* not have been as bad and the high *may* have been worth the comedown. But with the amount I used, the high did not justify the comedown. I would say in my own experience, to get a 'good high' from this I need to take over 100mg oral, but YMMV.

Exp Year: 2016ExpID: 108632
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 20 
Published: Jun 3, 2016Views: 8,665
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