Citation: pitsi. "Therapeutic Positivity: An Experience with 2C-E & AL-LAD (exp110586)". Erowid.org. Sep 20, 2017. erowid.org/exp/110586
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It was a Thursday, and I was going to attend a music festival with various genres (which will be expanded upon based on their influence on the trip). I was in possession of a selection of legal (where I am) research chemicals, however I had only experimented with one out of the 6 or so. So the preceding days were full of investigative planning so as to ensure an enhancement, rather than destruction of my experience at the festival. I knew I may run into some acquaintances, and that it would be crowded – two big no-nos (for me) in terms of heavy psychedelic territory. The final decision was a low dose of 2C-E insufflated (more like inserted into nose via finger), followed by a tab of AL-LAD. Funny how only hindsight can tell how perfect some decisions turn out to be.
Background: I have extensive experience in the period between 7-10 years ago with LSD, mushrooms, marijuana, alcohol, cocaine, ecstasy/MDMA, oxycodone, morphine, opium, and scarcer experiences with methamphetamine, benzodiazepines, dextromethorphan, diphenhydramine, hydrocodone. To escape problem territory I left all of these behind for good - the exception being psychedelics. Knowing I had a tendency for addiction, I quit all “party drugs” but after a hiatus (6 years) allowed myself to return to the land of funny blueberry-flavoured fractals and assisted introspection. More recently I have experimented with the world of research chemicals – 1p-LSD, 2C-B-Fly, 5-mapb (once which reaffirmed my belief that I can no longer take “party drugs”), 3,4-CTMP, ephenidine, as well as LSD, DMT, and mushrooms. Most recent drug intake was 2 weeks prior, 140mcg of ETH-LAD (in my single experience, one of the most useful assistants I have ever come across). Anyway let’s begin.
(T 0) 20:00 – I KNOW this is not advisable, but I attempted to use a cheap mg scale to weigh out 10mg of 2C-E. I did my best, and assuming a maximum error of 5mg, split the miniscule pile into 3 to ensure a maximum dose of 5mg. This was my first time with 2C-E, and I had also been skeptical of the source as it was not super crystalline and had a pink tinge. However the vendor was quick to send NMR and mass spec analyses, and the substance has since been tested with Marquis, Mecke, and Mandelin reagent tests. An allergy test of basically a speck of dust (also serving to rule out the bromo-dragonfly mixup scare) was performed a few days earlier, with no effect positive or negative. I had heard nightmares of insufflating 2C-E, but was aiming for the slightly shorter duration. So I split this tiny pile into 3 more specks of dust, and up went one. I basically felt nothing, and questioned the ability of this method for such an insignificant amount of powder. Also in a rush to get out the door, I dabbed my finger on the other 2/3 of the pile and just picked my nose, sticking the 2ce to my nostril. It did burn, but not as much as I had heard, especially from such a small amount. I also KNOW this is not recommendable behaviour, but I can guarantee I took a dose of between 2-5 mg based on all the securities I had in place.
(T +0:10) I was biking to the festival with insane energy and a non-descript uncomfortable sensation in my body. Sort of like my arms weren’t hanging in the right place. This lasted for the first two hours, while I waited to pick up my wristband, entered the festival and saw a few bands.
(T +1:00) Certainly feeling something, the most similar I could ascribe to my experiences with 2c-b-fly. My confidence was boosted and I had a playful livelihood to my thoughts. No major visual distortions, but a noticeable stimulation which was basically in the middle of pleasurable and dysphoric. Watched a band who I don’t particularly like, met with my friends, and ran into another friend. Nothing out of the ordinary, certainly no “oh god how do I explain how fuckin weird I am acting without telling him I’m on LSD” type of panics.
(T +1:00) Half the tab of AL-LAD (75 mcg) sublingually, where it stayed for thirty minutes as a pool of saliva filled my mouth. The tab swam through the saliva, until after about 30 minutes I got tired of having a pool of saliva in my mouth and swallowed it all.
(T+ 1:30) Absolutely zero warning signs of lysergamide action, which I always feel by this point. Other half of the tab under my tongue, and I waited for a metal band to begin. I was right at the front, and filled with an energy that was definitely above baseline. I began to feel the giddy hints of the first dose of AL-LAD, and from here everything sort of kicked in.
I wore my sunglasses for most of the set as the bright lights began to get more intense. I felt the uncomfortable body load of the 2c-e (I believe), which at the time I interpreted as subconscious suggestions for how to position my posture better. Adjusting my core and shoulder girdles ridded me of some of the awkward feelings in my shoulders, and I was mostly good. The show was very enjoyable, if not my favourite band.
(T +2:00) Now we are basically on go mode. In fact I only know this in hindsight, because the best way I can describe the low-dose 2C-E was like a subtle energetic positivity, which enhanced my good feelings while in no way flavouring them.
the low-dose 2C-E was like a subtle energetic positivity, which enhanced my good feelings while in no way flavouring them.
It was quite neutral, and I distinctly recall at numerous points thinking I was fairly bored mentally. I know I said positive and then neutral – it was like a positive reinforcement of my baseline feelings, not a forced positivity, nor any artificial-feeling takeover.
From about 22:00 until 03:00 I wandered around this festival ground, which was quite industrial and visually boring. BADBADNOTGOOD played an epic show which synchronized perfectly with my comeup on the AL-LAD, especially as they started encouraging us to swim through the air together with our hands and realize we are all one, and we are all free. This pure and simple enjoyment imparted feelings of goodness, love, and playful confidence in me, which certainly helped me keep calm being in the middle of a big crowd while coming up on acid (even if this is meant to be light-hearted).
The peak of the experience was watching Aphex Twin, who basically destroyed my senses with an insane audio-visual masterpiece of weirdness. This is important, because it is where I ascertained the supposed “lighthearted” nature of AL-LAD. Aphex Twin was basically offering me a bad trip on a platter smashed into my face. However I found myself giggling at the obscure and twisted faces, and being completely immersed in and at peace with the sensory overload. For me, AL-LAD had 0% of the fragile headspace of LSD. Whether this was attributable to the 2C-E or not, I shall not know! It should be noticed that during this time I had very strong urges to smoke tobacco, something I strictly do not do. This was delivered in the form of spliffs, so over 3 hours I probably consumed about 0.2g of marijuana and some tobacco. This enhanced my auditory and visual perceptions, gave me a wholesome feeling in my body, and a rush of awesomeness from the tobacco. The thing is I usually don’t even like the feeling of marijuana, and especially not tobacco. But at this time the synergy was meant to be.
The peak ended watching an amazing performance by Tycho, and it was really at this point that my inner philosopher started to speak up. From 03:30 onward (T +7:30 to T + 11:30), I would summarize my headspace as crystal clear, serene, and sharply and intuitively introspective. I basically lapped up all the goodness of the evening, basked in the positive energy I had absorbed, and had a strong surge of empathy (normally my feelings range from between about 0 to 3 on a scale of 10), messaging many old friends and opening up from the bottom of my heart. I biked home, nourished my body with an enormous salad, and massaged my brain with a marijuana-only spliff while the sun rose over the old buildings. I meditated the experience into my consciousness, and thanked the universe from the bottom of my heart for the evening and morning. To my surprise (I still felt stimulated), I fell asleep in milliseconds.
That is the best way I can describe the entire experience: a public-event friendly perception enhancer, with mild (supportive rather than controlling) stimulant, empathogen, and introspective qualities. Although the state produced was in no way extreme, the lessons and positivity I extracted from the experience was nothing short of immense. I had used lysergamides and phenethylamines in conjunction once before, that being 5mg 2C-B-fly and 100mcg 1p-LSD. I had a reflection back to that time, and my other experiences with 2C-B-fly, and realized that this is my favourite combination. I find it extremely uplifting spiritually, and I find that I am better equipped to make immediate use of these experiences which leave my ego and sociability intact. I still like to go far out into headspace-territory, but of course this demands an entirely different setting and for me serves a deeper purpose. For improvements in more concrete and immediate facets of “sober life,” I find the phenethylamines to be spot-on.
From this experience I can confirm the utility in low-dose 2C-E, and can give a solid approval to the combination of 2C-E and AL-LAD (something which I was able to find no mention of in the collection of resources we are so lucky to be able to extract knowledge from online). The next day was a beautiful afterglow. This is extremely abnormal for me – I attribute it to my irresponsible usage of serotonin and dopamine-depleting brain fryers in my adolescence, but I basically don’t do well with comedowns or hangovers typically. Basically any sway from equilibrium, be it 2 beers, one joint, even not sleeping well, negatively affects my motivation and mood the next day. This day 2 was freaking beautiful. I was able to entirely carry the positive energy I had fed off from the night before through my day, and started immediately integrating some of my realizations. BUT, tricked you, the hangover did come the next day (T +36:00). It was a very mild increase in irritability, and a decrease in motivation. This could be because on day 2 I smoked pot twice, something I increasingly don’t get along with but seem to keep giving second chances to anyway.
Tl,dr: 2C-E (LOW DOSE, I have to assume this will be completely non-applicable to normal to high doses) and AL-LAD synergized beautifully into a stimulating and positive push in energy and mood, enhanced visual and auditory sensory experience, and allowed a razor-sharp and useful introspection.
This may be useful to quell uncertainties of a recent (purchased May 2017 in Europe) batch of 2C-E which appears slightly pink and more chalky than crystalline.
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