Citation: AnonKey. "Least Visual Psychedelic I've Done So Far: An Experience with ALEPH & Cannabis (exp110708)". Erowid.org. Nov 20, 2017. erowid.org/exp/110708
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9mg of DOTALEPH-1 - A Psychonauts Experiment
This is a pretty rare psychedelic and I don't see many trip reports around, so I'm going to dedicate myself to it. Dropped 6.5mg around 5 minutes ago, last meal was 5.5 hours ago.
Setting: In my own studio alone
Tolerance: Did low dosage of psycs the week before, so should be minimal.
Experience: 2C-B, 2C-B-FLY, Bk2C-B, 2C-C, 2C-E, 2C-P, 3C-E, 4-AcO-DET, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-MET, shrooms, 5-MeO-MiPT, AL-LAD, ETH-LAD, LSD, LSA, DOC
T+0:30 - Sometimes I feel a little spark of body vibes, nowhere particular or constant though. Just waiting in anticipation.
T+0:40 - I feel myself becoming a little more active, pacing around and thinking more sharply in the sense that the fogginess from work is being evaporated from my mind.
T+0:50 - Considering to snort 2.5mg, but giving it a little more time. I feel some slight bloating in my stomach and a bit of an off feeling in my chest, but nothing too worrysome.
T+1:00 - Okay snorting little over 1mg now. I stuck my finger up my nose with some water and I already felt something burn. I have a feeling that it's going to hurt.. but it turned out to be no big deal. Full dosages are probably a little bit tougher, but don't imagine that to be incredibly painful either.
T+1:10 - Feels like a good bump of speed atm. Subtle body vibes that are more constant now, similar to what I have with speed. I have more wakefullness in my mind and more physical energy, dancing feels pretty nice. I don't feel particularly motivated to do something productive and euphoria is a little bit less than speed atm. In terms of visuals nothing is going on (not even CEVs), but there is a hint of my environment being different.
T+1:20 Ė I have a little bit of headspace coming on that sets it aside more from speed. Music is also enhanced, but nothing too crazy yet. Stomach isnít as bloated as before. Did another 1.5mg insufflated, wonít be going further tonight though.
T+1:30 Ė Oh wow, just as I told myself I doubt that Iíll be getting visuals, I see some stuff morphing ever so slight. Itís more prominent when I look outside at the grass. Yes Iím beginning to feel psychedelic.
T+1:40 Ė Bodyload is pretty non-existent, but the area around my stomach isnít entirely at rest. I always wonder if this is simply me feeling hungry, but not recognizing it as such cause I'm spacing.. lol.
I didnít expect to be in this state 10 minutes ago tbh. If things are going to build up further I think we might be in for something interesting after all. I feel a need to shit, as in diarrhoea, but so far nothing comes out. Not feeling sick though, the body vibes are actually becoming really pleasant and warm.
The morphing visuals are subtle and really slow in movement. I have some faint blue/red colours coming on when I close my eyes, but no real visuals yet. I feel nice though, body vibes are flowing really well, especially throughout my legs. My muscles shake randomly as if theyíre cold, but it feels nice, as if theyíre being massaged.
Headspace feels a lot warmer than 3C-E or DOC atm, they made me feel really cold about everything.
T+1:50 Ė It feels like the music enhancement has gone up another notch. Also eating some delicious fresh Korean meal. Tastes really nice, but canít say itís enhanced like with shrooms or ETH-LAD. Itís great food already. I have moderate amounts of energy to dance, probably similar to 2C-B, but these body vibes just make me want to sit hehe. The shivers going through my muscles are nice.
T+2:00 - I feel moderate headspace, a heavy feeling of my mind. Visuals are 'lacking'. It's interesting though, trying to establish how space you are without visuals to rely on. Brings something new to a psychedelic experience that I sometimes try to reproduce with shrooms by lying down with my eyes closed during the come up.
I know I will probably look back a bit disappointed or unimpressed by DOT, but there is something really interesting to explore here I have to say.
My headspace is pretty strong now with a few puffs of J. Like my body has the energy, but my mind is being a bit overwhelmed to really be dancing. I notice that when I do dance, the music enters my ears very intensely.
I notice that when I do dance, the music enters my ears very intensely.
Music enhancement is similar to 2C-B right now Iíd say, but less childlike in a sense. Simply beautiful.
T+2:15 Ė I notice that as the headspace and body vibes become more intense, I have less energy to dance. Itís too much to dance atm. Lower legs feel pretty light, but upper legs feel heavy in a nice way that promotes sitting or lying down.
I notice some tracers setting in. Thereís no patterning or sparkling stuff going on though. No particular colours that show yet. Just drifting around with my eyes closed feels nice in terms of movement. Iíve got some pupil dilation going on, but not a whole lot.
T+2:40 Ė Iím lying down atm and will be doing for the next good bit. Listening to my latest mix of 3.5 hours of liquid joy. Made it for a special friend and thereís a lot of emotions tied to the mix and our memories that it expresses. Really good to experience, great music enhancement and immersion. Smoking some J didnít spice up the visuals like with 3C-E, but it sure sparkled up my headspace and music experience.
T+2:50 Ė Music doesnít take me emotional as far as I thought. Iím simply immersed into the beauty of the music enhancement. But it lacks that emotional part of 2C-Bís music experience. While beautiful, it feels a bit flat and shallow compared to other psycs with great music enhancement (2C-B & acid analogues imo).
I think the lack of OEV/CEVís to said psychedelics also plays a role in that. But you see, itís interesting to discover the way I experience music based on visuals. Its what DOT is really making me realize. I feel great and all, but I recognize now how visuals determine and intertwine with other psychedelic effects. Itís not the lack of visuals, but the lack of depth it gives to the whole psychedelic experience.
Energy is almost completely gone now. A lot like shrooms, that grounded feeling of simply being tamed. I donít mind it too much though.
T+3:00 Ė Wow, I had to break myself free from the grounded feeling, but once I did itís incredible. Music appreciation is definitely better whilst dancing. I feel really space to be honest, but almost no visuals (even though dancing intensified them slightly). Satisfied with the experiment so far. Alright letís get back to dancing!
T+3:15 Ė LOOOOL. I decided to stare out of my window for a bit and I immediately knew it was a good idea since I spotted a cat right away. It felt like I could see the paths heíd take were already laid out on the grass. So interesting to see a cat move around, also getting distracted by minor things like me atm. At one point a rabbit jumped out and started running away, but the cat didnít chase.
You know why? Cause it seemed to me like he had found some catnip or whatever, cause he was being so weird all of the sudden. ďHaha, also getting high huh?Ē, I think to myself. Then I realize he was just setting up to take a shit and it was just me being high. That cat really gave me the chuckles though, cause when he was done shitting he immediately sprinted off and jumped against a tree as an act of rebellion before sprinting off further into the distance.
Cats man, genius creatures they are. They know to get away after shitting over your garden; they do it running (but not without jumping against your tree or fence before leaving). Assholes.
T+3:30 Ė Hypochondria or whatever is getting me again. Iím a little overwhelmed by all the body vibes and sensations. I feel like I need to pee, but Iím so fearful of trying to and not having anything come out. Like terrified that it makes me sick and nauseous to the point where I get dizzy and like Iím about to throw up.
T+4:00 - Itís at these times where youíre faced with your own decisions. DOT is very unknown even among psychonauts and could be doing whatever harm to me (like I fear it does something to my kidneys).
Itís at that point when the question arises; how do I get out of this? Who or what is going to help me? This voice will pop up no matter and will burn me down eventually where I start associating with this panic voice.
I had to take it really slow in the shower and was resonating hard on the thought that something was up with my kidneys. There might be, but Iím more inclined to believe my own state of mind attributes to it a lot. Hypochondria never bothered me up till a 4-HO-MET trip 2 weeks ago, it came out of nowhere (already had 2 amazing trips on a different batch with it). I was even more nauseous and regretting my life than I was in the shower just now.
So I personally wouldnít regard DOT to mess up my kidneys or something (I did eventually pee a whole lot), itís my own state of mind thing. I have to adapt to this, I see it now. Iím taking a break at #44 and start to rediscover how I can deal with or prevent certain things from negatively impacting a trip.
T+4:30 - The feeling that I have to pee returned quite quickly even though I emptied my whole bladder. It sucks that I can't get rid of this thought. It's like I'm misunderstanding how psychedelics change the sensations going through my body.
The fact that I could empty my whole bladder didn't make the nausea return, but I still took it slow, just watching Rick & Morty on my bed. I'm pretty out of the experience after the whole ordeal in the shower though. I just have to laugh at myself for being such a crazy person, always seeking the boundary with these RC's. Yes.. I can laugh again now that I'm relieved my kidneys are fine and that it's just in my own head.
T+6:00 - I empty my whole bldder another time and I feel close to being able to sleep.
T+6:30 - I decide to go and sleep, which cause me no troubles.
#44 had me tamed. DOTís a good one, but itís a crazy one. And this wasnít even the *essence of power*, hehe. Get outta here ALEPH, youíre staying in the baggy for a good amount of time, till Iím ready for you again 😊.
So yea, no more crazy research chemicals for a bit, not the really weird ones at least. My left hand was shaking tremendously and uncontrollable in the shower, even after being able to pee and relax my mind.
Headspace/mindset: Headspace was pretty intense, it made me feel really space. The stream of thoughts wasn't really psychedelic though, it didn't do much in that regard (2C-B does a lot more for instance).
Visuals: Visuals are absolutely minimal. Had some slow morphing visuals and occasionally some speckles of colours somewhere, but that's it. CEV's were very minimal as well. DOT is the least visual psychedelic I've done so far.
DOT is the least visual psychedelic I've done so far.
Body high/load: I experienced minimal body load. The body vibes took a bit to set in, but they were really great. Probably above average, though they felt really toxic when my hypochondria set in.
Energy: Energy wise this is a curious one. The body vibes promote sitting and during the peak I had very little incentive to dance, but when I would I'd have a lot of energy, similar to 2C-B. Dancing was nice.
Empathy: Bit hard to say, since I was alone. But I'm pretty sure the empathy is a lot better than RC's that come close to this (DOC/3C-E), they made me feel really distanced from everything but my own mind.
Sensory enhancement:The music enhancement was slightly above average I'd say, it was beautiful but lacked some depth. Touch was notably enhanced too, everything was super soft and light. Taste was okay.
Duration: Took around 1.5 hours to set in for me and the experience lasted 5-6 hours for me, but the whole ordeal in the shower probably cut it short.
DOT's an interesting one to experience, but only to certain types of people I'd say. It was certainly a unique experience to me. It really taught me why I value visuals.
Dosage wise I would probably do 9-10mg next time, I wonder if just the 6.5mg would've done something for me without snorting 2.5mg extra. Tread with caution though, from what I read of others is that the same dosage can produce no effects during one trip, and blast you off into the essence of power the next.
I thought about crawling to wherever I had my Etizolams lying around when I was so incredibly nauseous, but knew it would only fuck my hypochrondia up even more since I have no idea what the interaction is with DOT.
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