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Total Clarity
EPT & Cannabis
Citation:   Kaleida. "Total Clarity: An Experience with EPT & Cannabis (exp111205)". Apr 27, 2018.

  repeated smoked Cannabis
  1800 mg oral Kratom
  50 mg smoked EPT
  1 bowl smoked Cannabis
This was my first experience with EPT, and it was the third in a progression of smoked base tryptamine experiences I had had over a short time period, starting with MET and then MALT before reaching this. I began this short experiment partially as a way of testing whether these tryptamines would produce only limited amounts of tolerance alike DMT, but also just because I have recently started to explore more with base tryptamines in general and have really been starting to fall in love with them, and thus I am looking for any excuse to take them on a more regular basis. It does appear to me so far with these experiments that they don't build tolerance too quickly, but I will say that my instinct was that there was just the slightest effect this time, so in the future I think I will intend to put at least a week between all of my smoked base tryptamine experiences.

But, as to the current experience.... I did not really have a whole lot of expectations going into this trip though I did have a lot of questions, as I have worked a good number of times with closely related molecules like 4-HO-EPT but not with the quite well-known DPT which I have not yet gotten to try myself, but have heard much about, especially with regards to its uniqueness. I felt a slight anxiety as usual when trying a new substance, but really wasn't too worried at this point as nothing I had read about this molecule suggested to me that it would be overly difficult to handle and I had already been on a roll with these base tryptamines and was finding them to be quite easy to handle overall honestly despite their quite powerful hallucinogenic effects, so deciding to go for something I was a bit more confident would give me strong effects based on my recent experiments I jumped in with 50 mg, layered into a bowl of cannabis and smoked through a bong.

My previous experience with psychedelics includes DMT, MET, MPT, MiPT, DiPT, MALT, DALT, Psilocybe cubensis, 4-HO-MET, 4-HO-DET, 4-HO-MPT, 4-HO-EPT, 4-HO-DPT, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-HO-DiPT, 4-HO-McPT, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-AcO-MET, 4-AcO-DET, 4-AcO-MALT, 4-AcO-DALT, 5-HO-DMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, 5-MeO-EiPT, 5-MeO-DALT, Ipomoea tricolor, Argyreia nervosa, LSD, ETH-LAD, AL-LAD, 2C-B, 2C-I, DOC, and MDMA. My most recent trip was three days before this on 50 mg of MALT.

T-0:45 - At this point I took 200 mg of magnesium glycinate and 1800 mg of Maeng Da Red kratom, enough to give me a mild analgesic effect but no high, in preparation for the trip. I had done this before my experience on MALT as well to take care of a headache, which I also had this time around, and it went pretty smoothly without seemingly altering the character of the trip or actually masking the bodily effects of the drug or anything. It's still not something I would intend to do regularly, but these couples times I felt it necessary because the decisions to trip were somewhat spontaneous and only came after I had been smoking some cannabis during the day, which I usually don't do before tripping as it does build up some head and neck tension for me.
I had been smoking some cannabis during the day, which I usually don't do before tripping as it does build up some head and neck tension for me.

T+0:00 - I leaned back in my recliner in my living room and smoked the bowl of cannabis and 50 mg of EPT over the course of three or four big hits. After my recent experiences on MET and MALT and just what I had experienced from smoking base tryptamines in general, my immediate reaction was to glance around looking for the wall of sensory visual overload to slam into me, but I quickly found that, entirely unlike with the others, I was able to finish smoking and place the bong down on the table before anything serious ever started to develop. The open eye visuals that did eventually come did have a typical base tryptamine sort of feel to them, especially alike the shadowy designs that I had gotten from MALT, but they were less present than they would be on most tryptamines of this class though not most psychedelics in general, and they were slower and significantly less overwhelming feeling. In fact, by far one of the most obvious things about this experience to me at this point was that there was absolutely no emotional vibe of coming up on a psychedelic at all, no anxious or excited feeling or confusion or anything of the sort, just total clarity and practically sobriety. It has been said in one of the few trip reports about EPT already in existence so far that this molecule can be significantly more lucid than other powerful psychedelics often considered to be such, such as 4-HO-MET and AL-LAD; in my experience I can now say this seems absolutely true, as this was really quite possibly the most lucid and grounded I've ever been during any psychedelic state that was clearly this powerful, even though I had only started to see it really develop so far.

After taking a moment to be fully amazed by the fact that this strong trip had just come up with absolutely no struggle or fanfare like it was nothing and the realization that there was never going to be any rush of dissociation that just pushed me into the peak or anything, I leaned back to close my eyes and allow the drug to take over myself. As with most base tryptamines I've tried, this is definitely where the real show was.... It is difficult to recall it all now in vivid detail unfortunately as usual, but what I can remember really stands out, especially involving highly detailed, large, and repeated erotic human images and massive, extremely intricate, spinning, rainbow geometric designs and such, hard to describe on a level that really does it justice with this short description but entirely on the level of detail and intensity that I would expected from any of these other molecules I've been working with like MET and MALT. Notably, however, the superficial style of hallucinations overall was quite different from those, as with the emotional vibe of the trip, and most heavily I would say it related to molecules like ETH-LAD and 4-HO-DPT in a visionary sense but to 4-HO-EPT and especially 4-HO-DPT particularly in terms of the more geometric hallucinations, though in my personal opinion at least based on my own experience it combined these properties in such a way and at such a level of intensity that it completely outdid all of my experiences on these other molecules so far, I really found EPT's hallucinogenic effects to incredibly hedonistic and satisfying, especially again with how clear and grounded I felt. It still wasn't completely on the level of anything totally mind-blowing this time around, but it sure seemed to have the potential to reach a breakthrough-style point like that just like any of these other molecules I've tried.

Anyway, once I had gotten my fill of the closed eye realm and began to accept that the absolutely stunning geometries filled with sacred meaning were finally starting to really fade, I opened my eyes and sat up slightly to gaze around the room again. The visuals still had a very shadowy and lacking in color style to them, and were certainly less intense or intricate still than those of DMT, MET, MPT, or MALT, but still more complex than I've gotten so far on MiPT, DiPT, or DALT, and definitely still comparable in strength to most psychedelics I've taken in general, again particularly at this point very much resembling 4-HO-DET though a bit more complex and a bit less colorful. I also began feeling a body vibration picking up at this point, though, fascinatingly, whereas I normally dislike the vibrating body feeling literally any time I have gotten it on any other tryptamine, I actually found the sensation incredibly enjoyable and almost erotic this time around like I have heard others describe on DPT before, and as I put on some Shpongle to really enjoy the vibe I was even purposefully letting my limbs spasm more as the energy would grow and shift around me body, and this spasming never at any point felt in any way threatening, just like an unusual instinct. As I allowed this sensation to occur I also noticed that there was a steadily growing body high presenting itself in general as well, and simultaneously began to realize that until that point I actually felt somewhat anesthetized
I also noticed that there was a steadily growing body high presenting itself in general as well, and simultaneously began to realize that until that point I actually felt somewhat anesthetized
, a genuine numb feeling that was particularly noticeable in my face, which was not unpleasant but I was definitely enjoying the growing body high more.

T+0:18 - This was the first time I looked at my phone again after smoking, noting that the anesthetic feeling was fading and the visuals were still strong but definitely starting to become less present now. Over the next few minutes I noted that I was starting to enter a state very much alike the post-peak stage of 4-HO-EPT where I felt simultaneously stimulated and sedated both in good ways, and over the next few minutes after that the latter had developed along with a peaceful buzzing body sensation to the point that I wrote down a note describing it as a narcotic bliss. However, despite that narcotic feeling I also felt increasingly compelled to get up and let out the energy inside me, so I began slowly and smoothly dancing to the music while enjoying the incredible contentment I was feeling, which notably still did not have any manic euphoria alike I would expect from something like 4-HO-MET, it was still totally grounded. I did this for about an hour, until most of these feelings had started to fade a bit more fully and the lingering sedation was winning out over the lingering stimulation again.

T+1:26 - At this point the remaining visuals have all but disappeared and there is not much remaining other than a little bit of a still tingly buzz and a slight increase in music appreciation. I felt good, and I could describe a little more of my day but there really wasn't much more exciting to say, this was pretty much the end of the experience other than that the lingering good feelings slowly tapered off before fully vanishing at some point throughout the day.

In conclusion, I must say that I was extremely impressed by my first experience with EPT, and I spent the whole rest of the day thinking back on it and appreciating it and really letting that conclusion sink in. The thing about my recent experimentation with base tryptamines is that one of the reasons I am particularly drawn to them is that as of late I have been feeling more of a desire to take psychedelics which are indeed extremely hallucinogenic despite being quite lucid and easy to handle as my most preferred form of psychedelic recreation, as opposed to going for the really heavily psychological and perspective-shattering experiences that I used to seek out more when I was younger and newer to tripping, and while certainly not an inflexible rule, it did seem to me that the base tryptamines in general seemed to be a bit better set up for this hard but smooth tripping than the 4-substituted tryptamines I had traditionally loved so much, which for me more often make great mental trips instead. I was already very much enjoying my experimentation with these tryptamines like MET and MALT for this reason because I do find them to be at least more lucid despite being very visual, but this really took it up to the next level.... At this point, based on how I've been slowing down with actually collecting new psychedelic molecules and just how extreme of an example of this this drug has been for me, I'm honestly not sure if I'll ever find a psychedelic now that will beat EPT for me in terms of being as clearheaded as possible for as strong of hallucinations as possible, so that's obviously quite meaningful for me and gives me a lot of appreciation for and excitement about exploring this molecule in the future....

For now though, that is pretty much all of the detail I will be able to give, so I shall end this here. I am definitely highly looking forward to contributing further to the general knowledge on EPT though, and will eagerly share more as soon as I have more to tell!

Exp Year: 2017ExpID: 111205
Gender: Female 
Age at time of experience: 26
Published: Apr 27, 2018Views: 4,846
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