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Breaks All Expected Rules
by AA
Citation:   AA. "Breaks All Expected Rules: An Experience with DOC (exp113328)". Jul 1, 2019.

T+ 0:00
  oral Pharms - Meclizine  
  T+ 0:00   oral Pharms - Ibuprofen  
  T+ 0:00 1.5 mg oral DOC (liquid)
  T+ 10:00 2 mg oral Pharms - Lorazepam  


Dose: 1.5 mg DOC (via volumetric water measurement)
Other supplements taken simultaneously: Magnesium, Meclizine, Ibuprofen

So I was at a Psy festival in the middle of the mountains in Europe, and since it goes nonstop for 48 hours, I thought DOC, known to keep people awake for 24 hours or so, would be good to try here for the first time.

I take it on a partially-empty stomach, 2.5 hours after lunch. Within five minutes I already feel a tingling sensation. The come up is a smooth gradual increase over the course of 2-2.5 hours. My muscles are super relaxed, and I feel very warm and comfortable, very similar to 2C-B without the body load. I experienced no nausea or vasoconstriction. Though (1) this is a low dose, (2) I was dancing during the comeup, (3) the ibuprofen and meclizine probably helped with this exactly.

I would feel some waves of energy and some waves of calmness, both equally enjoyable. The peak began around 3.5 hours in and lasted ~4.5 hours.
The peak began around 3.5 hours in and lasted ~4.5 hours.
It felt physically like incredibly clean acid with no body sensation or stimulation whatsoever. More like a muscle-relaxant, as 2C-B makes one feel. Decent jaw-clenching, but nothing excessive. And very thirsty the whole time.

The visuals were about as strong as 100+ug LSD, but with the headspace of 20mg of Adderall. Yes, thatís right, the only amphetamine-like thing about this is a super focused, clear, rational headspace thatís almost sober, or even slightly sharper. No cloudiness or confusion - much less so than even 2C-B. I could pretty much handle doing anything, and no stress, doubts, loops, anxiety, or distractions ever got in my head. In fact, if I wanted to think about nothing, the super slow-paced headspace let me. Also the music enhancement was excellent.

The OEVs themselves were unlike regular tryptamine visuals. I got color enhancement similar to 2Cís, but nothing was flowing or moving. The depth of everything was distorted, with many things looking closer than they appear. The geometry of things also appears warped toward my face when I stare at them. So itís very colorful and geometric, but static rather than dynamic.

The CEVs were bizzare. Unlike anything Iíve seen or heard of. I didn't get any red-green-purple gradient colors flashing all over the place in a psychedelic mashup of stuff. Rather everything starts out black and slowly a fully coherent image forms every 10-15 seconds or so. Almost like watching a very slow slideshow on TV. The images contain realistic natural colors, and their subject matters are mostly realistically-rendered scenes. And the scene stays very still spatially, no erratic movement or noise. Very strange indeed.

After the peak, it started to feel more like a pleasant residual sensation of a stimulant
After the peak, it started to feel more like a pleasant residual sensation of a stimulant
, plus the enjoyable ďhead-heatĒ of MDMA occasionally. But after about 9 hours, I actually felt tired, unexpectedly. After 10 hours, I wanted to sleep (was getting rather cold outside), and I successfully knocked out with 2mg Lorazepam for 8 hours of nice sleep. What was funny is I still felt trippy upon waking up, as if it was simply paused and resumed. But after a total of 21 hours, I was back to normal completely.

To conclude, this is the perfect recreational alternative to LSD. There are no deep thoughts, confusion, or nervousness to get in the way of interacting with people in public or dealing with stressful scenarios - at least at this dose. Which brings me to my other point, make sure you measure this stuff properly! Donít eyeball it or try to measure 1-2mg with a scale; measure more and separate with water. Someone there I met told me how his girlfriend took an unknown-dose DOC blotter and ended up in the hospital shortly after. So even though I saw no indication of how this substance could go bad (at my dose), apparently it can, and does. But overall, this was an abnormal combination of relaxation, clear focused headspace, and unique open- and closed-eye visuals. I know I will be doing this more often, especially knowing that, despite other reports, it is possible to sleep relatively early on if needed.

Exp Year: 2019ExpID: 113328
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 24 
Published: Jul 1, 2019Views: 3,753
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