Citation: Kaleida. "Luxurious Probably Says It Best: An Experience with 4-AcO-MALT (exp113333)". Erowid.org. Jul 31, 2019. erowid.org/exp/113333
The dose described in this report is very high, potentially beyond Erowid's 'heavy' range, and could pose serious health risks or result in unwanted, extreme effects. Sometimes extremely high doses reported are errors rather than actual doses used.]
[This trip report is written from a multiple-identity perspective.]
The following Greek letters have been changed to protect the innocent. This trip report is written by Kappa.
This was our fourth time taking 4-AcO-MALT, our first three times being at 25, 50, and 75 mg, and this one finally being our push to 100 mg. While our initial experiments with this molecule showed to be pretty mild at the same sort of dosages that would usually has us totally blasted on most other 4-substituted N-methyltryptamines, we had never yet given up hope that when pushed far enough it might just end up being fully active in that way and comparable in strength to all the other particularly good ones, so we kept pushing. Our 25 and 50 mg dosages which have their own trip reports did remind us a lot of the structurally similar 4-HO-MPT but more muted in a lot of ways or again really just weaker by weight, but 75 mg is where we felt we were really starting to see some more of its potential. Delta actually took it around a year or so ago and had a very significant and meaningful experience with not complete but significant ego loss sensations and some significant abstract but still more complex and structured visionary hallucinations and open eye geometries starting to form, but it still wasn't quite at the threshold we were completely looking for though new then that we were not wrong to suspect before that it could start to show us more when just finally taken far enough. That is what brought us to take this 100 mg dosage now, which Delta actually planned out but I was the one that ultimate made us go all the way with it.
Our previous experience with psychedelics includes DMT, MET, MPT, EPT, MiPT, DiPT, MALT, DALT, Psilocybe cubensis, 4-HO-MET, 4-HO-DET, 4-HO-MPT, 4-HO-EPT, 4-HO-DPT, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-HO-DiPT, 4-HO-McPT, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-AcO-MET, 4-AcO-DET, 4-AcO-MALT, 4-AcO-DALT, 5-HO-DMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, 5-MeO-EiPT, 5-MeO-DALT, Ipomoea tricolor, Argyreia nervosa, LSD, ETH-LAD, AL-LAD, 1P-LSD, 2C-C, 2C-B, 2C-I, 2C-E, DOC, DOB, 4C-D, Myristica fragrans, and MDMA. Our most recent trip was started four days before this and ended two and a half days before this on 3 mL of Myristica fragrans essential oil, which we assumed would produce some tolerance but were willing to risk it because of our upcoming abstinence, and honestly we couldn't really determine whether or not there was any significant tolerance playing a role in the experience we achieved.
We didn't actually keep track of it at the time, but we think Delta is the one who first woke up fronting in the morning. She (or whoever) went to the bathroom and immediately noticed that our legs were shaking as if we had just taken a high dosage of a 4-substituted tryptamine, the way they always do and very recognizably that. The feeling built and she wasn't really sure what to make of it, so she finished up and then went and sat on the couch for a minute feeling calmer, but then suddenly our stomach lurched and she ran to sink and puked our guts out much like we often do on tryptamines. What's going on here? All I can say is that many years we once took 90 mg of 2C-I and before actually doing it, as soon as we looked down at it and contemplated it our body started shaking violently like we were suddenly coming up on the speediest trip of our life, and we had to wait a bit to be comfortable dosing. Ironically, the trip was extremely relaxed with almost no physical stimulation at all, but something interesting to think about. Going through this little phase is actually what made Delta doubt that she wanted to take the 4-AcO-MALT at all though, but I came out and said I was still up for it, and it was decided that we could still go ahead with it anyway if I wanted to be the one mostly guiding it.
T+0:00 Delta finishes preparing a bowl of marijuana for us to smoke later. I dose us with 100 mg of 4-AcO-MALT orally and eat some crackers to wash down the pretty unenjoyable taste. Afterwards we go to the bathroom and get in the shower while waiting for the effect to probably quickly come on. While we are in there at first we were just going about our usual business but soon started to notice fast flashes of mental visual imagery that is very similar to many of the past times we've had particularly powerful 4-substituted tryptamines coming on, and especially on 4-HO-MPT and 4-HO-EPT superficially. From there it is hard to remember if anything else really happened in between that and when it suddenly escalated like crazy, and that did happen very quickly afterwards either way.
Delta and I were frequently switching back and forth between one another without trying to and we were being completely overwhelmed by an erotic psychedelic overload that was probably by far the most similar of anything we've tried so far to 4-AcO-DMT except with a bit different of an aesthetic style and much more directly sexual and overwhelmingly euphoric. We had hallucinations of hands groping us all over our body and simultaneously felt a skin sensitivity that they were triggering that was pushing into a state of pure bliss and confidence and filling us with urges to scream in ecstasy at the top of our lungs, as well as self-deprecating thoughts about why we stupidly took this high of a dosage at our apartment where we kind of needed to remain inconspicuous. We let out some moans that would have been nice in a lot of cases but still weren't nearly at the level of intensity we felt the need to let out, and the stifling at a little bit of tension to the experience, though it was still felt absolutely amazing. We even noticed at this our eyes were shaking quickly back and forth and sending tons of complex visual tracers all over everything we could see, something is something that hasn't really happened for us and basically any psychedelic (aside from the less visual version on MDMA) since the first time we took psilocybin mushrooms, and were tripping similarly hard to this.
Aside from this it's also worth noting that whereas there were again already some promises of nice visuals at lower dosages, this one really hit that point where they suddenly take on a "DMT-like" intensity like a lot of tryptamines and especially the N-methyl ones do, where a crazy amount of visual sensory overload just sort of exploded out at us, simultaneously to the sexy hands starting to feel us up. Similarly to how we had felt about lower dosages, the visual style specifically reminded us a lot of other synthetic asymmetrical 4-substituted N-methyltryptamines, like 4-HO-MET and 4-HO-MPT especially as well as 4-HO-MiPT, in the sort of color scheme they used and the more "technological" rather than "organic" vibe we often get from them in some ways, but on the other hand very notably lacked most of the "extra" structured visual elements we tend to notice on those things compared to mushrooms or 4-AcO-DMT which we usually relate more to lysergamides or phenethylamines, and overall, in visuals in this case but really just alike most other aspects of the trip too, it really did remind us more of that "classical" mushroom style of trip, and again more especially 4-AcO-DMT. Furthermore, while I don't want to say anything for all of us too confidently yet, we do feel that the visual style may be at least as complex as 4-AcO-DMT's in this way for us, and I do feel more confident in saying that it's at least more complex than the similar style on the 4-HO-MET, 4-HO-MPT, and 4-HO-MiPT, even if not having all the same other elements they do. Additionally, in the same ways that mushrooms and 4-AcO-DMT remind me of DMT visuals at higher dosages, I would say the 4-AcO-MALT visual style had a very strong superficial resemblance to that produced my MALT in an number of ways.
T+0:33 - I purged again at this point, was thinking maybe it wouldn't happen again after it did before the trip but no luck. Notably however, I feel it's decently likely we wouldn't have ever had the urge to if we had felt comfortable completely letting go into our euphoric instincts in the shower. The tension that not doing that caused kind of stayed with us to this point where it seemed to suddenly escalate, and after that we felt much better again. Also, despite my note I took at this time containing nothing but the timestamp and the word 'purge' there were still multiple typos. Our eyes were still shaking like crazy and visuals were erupting everywhere at the time.
T+0:45 - I took our first hit off the bong at this point, time to kick this thing into overdrive! It actually made us even hornier so fast that we were compelled to go back into the bedroom and masturbate because the fact that we hadn't been able to completely let go during the initial wave of the peak was still kind of killing us. I wanted to try to experience this release myself but Delta got triggered out for it and we've been working on just going with the flow of her switches so she stayed out for the climax. For the record the note we wrote about going to do this also was not easy to decipher, we're really being slammed by this thing.
T+1:02 - We finished up in the bedroom, and our note about it was definitely more legible again though still not totally back to our norm. Delta was feeling fantastic now after having the orgasm free up the peak trip feeling and putting on some music and was feeling the euphoric and still very sexy bliss spread throughout her to the point where she felt she was feeling a little too good and was ready to switch back in for a while, so I came back out. She also wrote a note about it still containing a few typos.
T+1:13 - I'm back out and listening to more music myself and having a blast, currently "Primadonna" by Marina and the Diamonds on "Lovefool" by The Cardigans. This trip has me in a very specific often erotic but also romantic and just generally emotionally expressive and mindset that I really like, it makes me feel plugged into my true inner self and confidence in a way that few things often do. However, this is also not still not unlike mushrooms for us. The first part of this note was also almost illegible, definitely a wave of intensity coming back for me.
T+1:15 - I took another hit of marijuana at this point, keep it going! It caused Delta to start switching back and forth with me again and we both came out to do a lot of very energetic and expressive and sensual dancing, which was tons of fun as always. There were also visions rolling through our minds of us dressed up in luxurious erotic clothing that had a sense of grandeur similar to what we experience on mushrooms and 4-AcO-DMT more so than anything else except this and a few other tryptamines so far, but again this was still more overtly sexual and creative in that particular way than that. Delta thinks these are honestly the best sexy psychedelic visions, and I am enjoying them too though I'm not yet sure if I would make that claim though it's mostly a matter of aesthetic preference in this case, but she is also still feeling more generally orgasmic about it all because she actually did experience an orgasm while fronting, and I'm still kind of feeling like I want or need something like that myself to really make this trip fully memorable after our reserved peak, but I am still having a fantastic time nonetheless.
T+1:23 - While still listening to music (currently "I Need A Hero" by Bonnie Tyler) we decided to practice a bit more Delta going into our dissociative inner world. She still wasn't able to get as completely immersed as some of us have but it was a fun exercise nonetheless that also mixed well with the psychedelic state, and was actually quite revealing in this way. The more we have practiced going in there on our own as of late the more we have suspected (and we already did to some degree) that the mechanism involved in it and possibly part of dissociative identity disorder in general overlaps with the "breakthrough" mechanisms produced by powerful hallucinogenic drugs like tryptamine psychedelics, and something that had been making us suspect this more so than anything is that when we consciously go inside, we have a transforming mental visual image that accompanies it of a repeating image of our faces (of our inner/alter bodies) arranged like chrysanthemum petals that becomes "closer" to us as it gets more vivid and then suddenly bursts, and then whoever was going in is inside. In our past strong tryptamine experiences which we haven't done too many of in a while, not since we also had a harder time recognizing or interacting with our dissociative symptoms and inner structures and didn't understand them for what they were, we also always had a lot of trouble achieving a complete "breakthrough" dose with these psychedelic tryptamines even though we liked to push them far, but was also always had these sort of repeating faces in flower petal images appear throughout the visuals on those experiences too.... This has given us a lot to think about that we are still working through as of my typing this. Also, this note also contained a couple typos, but they were no more in any of the remaining notes.
T+1:33 - Delta put on some Shania Twain ("Man! I Feel Like a Woman!") but I am in such a confident mood that I get triggered out for it and start dancing, and watching me pushes Delta to another breaking point of bliss and our imaginations start going very wild together in our shared headspace.... Zeta actually came out and wrote a note about it while listening to "Uptown Girl" by Billy Joel because we were a little distracted at the time. I won't go too much into detail but there are a lot of feelings Delta and I are still trying to work through here and this was directly related to that.... In case you don't know, alters in dissociative identity disorder, for whatever reason I could not possibly tell you, can be as different as any two other people in their general... qualities, I guess; for example, we have right-handers and left-handers, and we have heterosexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, and asexuals, and much more.... Furthermore, the way we act internally is not different from the way we act with other people, and even being in the same body doesn't always get in the way of that as much as you might think. So something we are working through right is that I am very confidently at least homosexual whereas Delta is maybe bisexual but she's still trying to understand her feelings about it all and explore the close bond we have at the same time.... That's all I'll say about that for now but it's all you really need to know for the sake of understanding what's going on in this report anyway. I will just say that the 4-AcO-MALT helped a lot with us exploring our inner feelings of connection and enhancing our communication, for mainly the same sort of reasons it had been making us so euphoric and confident and just happy in the first place. Also, just for the record, Zeta also made a note about being super bubbly and euphoric at this point when she was out, so that seems to be the general sentiment throughout about the trip so far!
T+1:45 - I was wrong.... There's one more typo in this note. There's a little bit of switching back and forth going on as we work through this stuff and play different music (made notes of me putting on "Don't Worry, Be Happy" by Bobby McFerrin and Zeta putting on "Hey, Soul Sister" by Train) and Zeta takes out next bong hit at this point. Afterwards we are kind of shaken out of our communication and move back out and on to the next phase of the trip. Next I am at the front again but there is now actually an inner conversation going on between Delta and Lambda. They are discussing the observation that Lambda seeings to be more of a "thinking" psychonaut who is particularly captivated by psychedelics that are analytical and deep but grounded and generally longer-lasting for the sake of being able to get the most thought out on it, whereas Delta seems like more a "feeling" psychonaut is seems more drawn to psychedelics which just cause an explosion of sensation and/or emotion and likes to get about as far out as humanly possible at least a lot of the time but also doesn't mind a shorter-lasting experience as long as it gives her a lot to reflect on after the fact, and also how the close observations between our recent trip on DOB and now on the 4-AcO-MALT really helped them to be able to narrow that time quite easily as we're really just started to truly understand and make record of the differences in some of our drug preferences and desires. There is a sense of finding some peace between them as they start to grow more comfortable of their own wants and needs and accepting that they're happy with the other being whatever kind of psychonaut they want as long as they get to be their own kind as well. I tell them I'm glad we both kinds and will happily go along for the ride for either but especially the latter, and Delta has another release emotions that she can't stand to keep in that makes me blush and we end up feeling bonded some more. :) The song "Crazy" by Gnarls Barkley came on at some point too which we much enjoyed and made a note of.
T+1:52 - Delta and I have been switching to dance and sing to some more music that we've just been letting randomly play on YouTube, including one we hadn't heard before but liked called "No Roots" by Alice Merton. After letting out more of our energy and everything else we had already been going through I wanted to listen something a little calmer for a bit, so I put on "Feel It Still" by Portugal. The Man and let other calmer related music play from there. While just chilling on the couch I believe we spent some time focusing on more inner communication and introspection and just sort of working through our shit in general, a very nice and lucid and contemplative sort of state, and there are still lots of sexy and colorful mental visualizations going along with it all internally. Open eye visuals are still present clearly when looking for them but we haven't really been noticing them when not thinking about them for a while, but they're enough that the TV screen starts immediately warping with pretty colors even if not too heavily when we do look. The body still feels fantastic and euphoric too in that was that feels like it's almost too much, yet at this same time just isn't and it's really nearly perfect in that way, though it was definitely becoming a bit subtler at this point, but not disappointingly so. There also notably still hasn't been any body load throughout any of this that we can recall aside from the purge at the beginning which again we don't even think might've happened if we had just been more prepared to fully let go for the first wave of it all.
T+2:08 - Different alters have been coming out to listen to a bunch of different songs as they played ("Everybody Talks" by Neon Trees, "Death of a Bachelor" by Panic! At The Disco, and "Welcome to the Black Parade" by My Chemical Romance were all noted) and now Zeta is out thinking about how a friend of ours has often thrown parties for people who mostly just drink alcohol and the better experiences we've had there first taking 4-substituted tryptamines in the morning and then drinking during the afterglow. She's most likely mainly thinking about this because this same friend is going to be coming over to hang out with us later in the day and we're actually planning to have our last alcohol experience before our extended drug break and perhaps ever today with her after this, so it's highly relevant to our current situation.
T+2:15 - We take another hit of marijuana and have another bonding moment internally between myself, Zeta, and Delta.... We didn't really make note of exactly what it was though but in retrospect I think it was mostly an emotional thing and they seem to agree, this drug was definitely good at giving us moments like that. I did also make note shortly after this point of one single physiological effect after all: increased urine output, we were peeing a lot, and more than we would from just all the smoking or taking some other psychedelics too. However, it was a totally normal amount of it compared to pretty much most or all of our past powerful 4-substituted tryptamine experiences.
T+2:20 - I made a note that at this point we really started thinking about just how much time had actually passed and what time it was now for really the first time throughout the experience. I also noted at this point that I'm starting to recognize how some of my personal behaviors may have played a role in our past psychedelic experiences before we were aware of our dissociative condition or recognized our specific inner identities consciously, and it's giving me a whole lot to think about in that sense.... I very much look forward to working with a lot of these molecules again now that I have and understand this perspective, and for more reasons that just this too!
T+2:25 - At this point there are still some significant geometric visuals going but they are mostly now just mental visualizations, not in the external world or really what you would call closed eye visuals exactly either, and they actually remind me a lot of the kind of thing we would see on 50 mg of methoxetamine, but less vivid though also still with more psychedelic color and complexity, just a bit at this point. I also note though that we'd honestly probably still have more external visuals too if we ever stopped to look for them but just have too much clean energy for thinking as well as feeling to really be focusing on much else at the moment.
T+2:33 - Delta is triggered out to the front by "Don't Speak" by No Doubt and notes that she is feeling awesome still but much more reflective and chilled now, the state is much more subtle compared to before despite still being significant. She went and looked at an old picture of us with a friend and noticed how much we were clearly still tripping overall when actually paying attention to it when our friend's face started changing into strange sizes and shapes almost immediately and kind of surprised us with how active things still were. She also had a more personal internal experience based on this specific picture she was looking at that she also would say was definitely enhanced by the drug, but for her sake I will keep the description of the actual experience private.
T+2:45 - I practiced going into our inner world a little more while I was still just sitting on the couch and noticed that I definitely still carried a little bit of the psychedelic creativity and euphoria in there with me, so we went to go meditate especially for Delta to see if she could bring it out herself more. We also took another hit of marijuana exactly at this timestamp.
T+2:59 - While we were in the bedroom getting lost in our own minds I started having a sexual fantasy where I imagined Delta as my partner and this caused Delta to start experiencing a dissociative state that finally allows her to push somewhat more completely past the "chrysanthemum" of our inner world where she says it was still not 100% vivid and immersive but finally more so than not. She compares it to a state we get when falling asleep when very high sometimes where we will see a dream scene form but most it will be a blurry haze except for one or two specific details that we focus our attention on which appear with complete lifelike vividness even more so than a regular non-lucid dream would, she says that is essentially how she was perceiving the inner world at the time whereas normally it was just all like a blurry or distant vision to her. She experiences the sexual fantasy from her own perspective and then spends a little time in the inner world doing the same kind of things we usually do in there, mostly just relaxing with simple pleasures. She very much enjoys the sense of freedom and sensations the inner world provides but is still unable to stay in for all that long and pops back out not that long afterwards. She's only been gone maybe a couple dozen seconds but as usual, the alter coming out seems to have experienced some time dilation and she swears it must have been at least a few minutes. She also notes that when she was very close to the body she felt as if it was breathing very slow, but it suddenly sped up significantly as soon as she snapped all the way back in. She is fascinated by the dilation of the perception of time this experience provides but also notes that she thinks part of it simply relates to the fact that at least some of the concept of time is just sort of absent in general in the inner world, and furthermore the fact that the memories are somewhat fleeting like a dream or trip after you return from it.
As for me, the orgasm I achieved by fantasizing about Delta was fantastic and felt incredibly freeing and revealing, and notably it did finally bump me up to that level of "full satisfaction" I felt that I had been missing from the trip before but that Delta had been able to get from her own orgasm after we both first felt the need to somewhat repress ourselves, and I was very grateful for that fact and just especially happy even more so than I already was from this point on.
T+3:05 - I'm definitely feeling like the trippy state is still going but starting to decline noticeably in intensity now, not too rapid-feeling in the moment but still quick compared to a lot of longer-acting psychedelics. I like down on our bed for a few minutes to just sort of relax and contemplate our current state and when staring at the window blinds I can see there are still modest but obvious open eye visuals going in the form of colorful auras and tracers and slight distortions similar in presentation to many other 4-substituted tryptamines.
T+3:15 - I went to hit the marijuana again but the screen in the bong was getting very packed and tight and I ended up taking around two and half hits total just trying to get it all through, which also finished the bowl. I also put all of that stuff away afterwards to prepare for our friend (who doesn't smoke it) coming over later in the day to drink, mostly because we weren't sure when she was coming over yet and didn't want to be too high for it if it was soon.
T+3:21 - Zeta came out a bit for the sake up cleaning up our apartment, which she is usually the one taking the initiative to do, before our friend arrived and put on some American Dad!, which she seems to like the most of any of us, in the background while doing so. Because we were (she was) busy cleaning, we weren't taking notes for a little while. I will say though that I don't recall us having any significant impairment during the cleaning, we were still on the drug for sure but definitely pretty cleared up already for what it was, and we were feeling pretty happy and refreshed by this point, as well as still good and energized in the body.
T+4:23 - Zeta has a bowl of cereal after realizing that we have puked twice today and eaten nothing but a few crackers all day and it's already past noon. It ended up being the only thing we ate for literally the entire rest of the day even through all the drinking we did later so it was probably a pretty good call!
T+4:36 - I come back out and hop in the shower to get cleaned off and reset after our long trippy morning. While we were in there Zeta did a little inner world practice where she also achieved a bit greater immersion and Delta and I had some more nice inner communications, and when we were so inwardly focused it was quite clear that there were still some of the sexy mental visualizations that had accompanied the heavier tripping earlier running through our minds still pretty strongly, though definitely less intense or obvious than before still. We also had a few bursts of stronger visuals again for few a second or two each accompanying our switches, something that seems to happen with certain but not all types of hallucinogenic effects even just within the psychedelic realm.
T+5:15 - We have now officially set up the plans with our friend for a couple more hours from now, so I load us another bowl of marijuana and put on some music again. Delta comes out and makes a note of that the trip definitely seems mostly over by now but she's waiting to see what effect smoking has on it.
T+5:31 - Delta has been listening to the groups SISTAR (particularly the song "ALONE") and BLACKPINK and notes that she now feels that she definitely does have more energy than normal still while moving to music but at the same time is still feeling fairly relaxed too, and while she is moving she is still sitting on the couch for most of it.
T+5:45 - I put on "❤" by Savant and let the related music play as Delta came out and started working on a text to another friend of ours to just let him know a little bit about how our 4-AcO-MALT has gone and is still going just a bit.
T+6:13 - She finished texting him at this point and I came back out, and made note of the fact that while she was distracted typing a lot of random EDM songs with strange music videos had been playing in the background and I was really just starting to notice them now. I just let them keep playing and went to take another hit off the bong bowl at T+6:15 which finished it, and then I loaded another half bowl of a few more hits. When the music kept playing after this it quickly switched to a group called Goldfish that we had never heard of, but Zeta and I actually really ended up liking their songs and music videos (Delta and some of the others have started getting into them more after this moment too) and made note of listening to "Get Busy Living", "Fort Knox", "We Come Together", and "Talk to Me" at this time, all of which we have listened to a lot now already!
T+6:30 - I finished that half bowl and now we really are done smoking before our friend arrives. We put on the song "One Million Views" by Goldfish and love it, and then "Woman's a Devil" too, but after that we stop trying out new music for the time being and just let some of these songs replay for a while while we contemplate how the day has gone so far, enjoy the ligering psychedelic trip and high, and prepare for our friend to arrive and get shitfaced.
T+7:13 - At this point Rho switched out for our friend's arrival and notes that she is officially on her way so we're done taking notes at this point. For the record we were also still definitely feeling something from the 4-AcO-DMT at this point, but it felt mostly just a wonderful afterglow combined with just a tiny amount of a trailing bodily euphoria.
We had a great time drinking with our friend and had some very deep conversations as we normally do that were usually lighthearted but also somewhat challenging, we tend to get a lot more out of drinking with her than we do with anyone else which is why we wanted to drink with her specifically for possibly our last alcohol experience ever in the first place. I'm not going to go much into it of course because it's private! But I will say that we definitely felt like the 4-AcO-MALT was still having an enhancing effect the way that past 4-substituted tryptamine experiences have accented our experiences of drinking at her parties, and we really just felt fantastic overall all night. We also went through just under three bottles of wine between the two of us with us (the system) drinking a good bit more than she did.
T+14:15ish - Delta comes out and notes that our friend has left and she is now going to smoke a bowl of marijuana before going to bed. At T+14:49 she notes that she feels extremely high and drunk but doesn't write anything else, and that's the last note before she (we) ended up falling asleep on the couch.
We woke up there at T+19:11 at the middle of the night and picked ourselves up to move over to bed. We had a bowl of marijuana in there with us too that I think we took a couple hits of at this time but I can't remember much else about it. We ended up staying in bed tossing and turning until T+25:23 because we didn't want to get up because we still felt pretty good while lying in bed and figured that would not be the case for very long once we actually got up. However, while we waited to the whole day from the moment we did finally get up, a hangover never actually arrived; we were a little exhausted from the previous day for sure but never felt any discomfort of any kind, and in fact we still felt quite good overall as it we were largely still just in a nice psychedelic afterglow, and had a lingering alcohol-like feeling of the kind we would normally expect to get from having maybe one or two drinks tops, noticeable but still actually more nice than not even on its own. I can't possibly speak as to what the actual reason was that we never really got hungover, especially after how much we drank (that much would normally have us pretty decently hungover) and the fact that we ate almost nothing the entire day, but we definitely liked to think throughout the following day that the 4-AcO-MALT may have had a very positive impact on it all, and I'm not complaining about it either way no matter what did cause it!
Overall there seems to be a consensus in here that the effect of the 4-AcO-MALT reminds us the most of 4-AcO-DMT and mushrooms, mentally, physically, and visually, by comparison to most other 4-substituted tryptamines and really just tryptamines and psychedelics in general, but at the same time relative to 4-AcO-DMT and mushrooms themselves definitely still does have some particularly (but not exclusively) superficial components that are more similar to some of the synthetic 4-substituted tryptamines, especially the ones that for us have an extra erotic vibe like 4-HO-MPT and 4-HO-MiPT, but importantly whereas those two by comparison again have strong feelings we tend to relate to LSD and phenethylamines, the 4-AcO-MALT seemed to do it with much closer to a "pure" "tryptamine-like" style as we would recognize it like what the DMT-based molecules produce, despite how much that very same vibe it definitely seemed to have and especially with respect to specifically sexual effects. It would not be wrong to suggest that we basically thought of it as a less potent but also sexier 4-AcO-DMT, but at the same time it would be wrong to suggest that we don't think it has the potential to prove itself to be more than "just" that.
Delta, who is still excited about the revelations she feels she had about her own psychedelic desires as a result of this trip, currently feels that 4-AcO-MALT may be her new favorite psychedelic, or that it at least has the very high potential to be so if it consistently produces these kinds of experiences for us. She had previously had her best personal psychedelic experience on 4-HO-MPT so it wasn't a very big leap for her, and she says that she thinks she prefers the 4-AcO-MALT even more so specifically for its focus on the more mushroom-like emotional and sensory overload compared to the more LSD-like cognitive space that has also drawn some of us more to 4-HO-MPT and remain there even after this experience instead, along with the fact that the visuals seemed to be starting to get particularly crazy in a way that reminded her of 4-AcO-DMT and that seems to tickle her aesthetic fancy the most. She also would like to note that she felt (and in retrospect I would have to agree) that significant parts of the experience and especially the peak were also similar to our most euphoric experience on 2C-C at 25 mg, which we also feel to have some obvious mushroom-like elements despite some other very obvious differences. Personally, I thought the trip was 4-AcO-MALT was fabulous and very freeing and insightful and have nothing against exploring it more deeply, but I'm not sure I would say yet that it was my favorite on the same level as that, but I'm still kind of trying to figure out what I like to some extent more so than I think she and some others in here are who had been thinking about it more actively for longer than I have. I still think the DOB trip was very, very cool for example and very different from this one in a lot of if not most ways, but I would have a hard time picking between them at the moment in terms of saying which one was truly more useful or enjoyable, if such a thing could really even be said! But I am very excited to start thinking about these things more myself and figure out where my own preferences lie in the way that the others who most actively shared this experience with me were using to further figure out for themselves.
I could speak more about my thoughts and feelings about this experience but feel that I'd rather not dilute the direct documentation of the drug's effects at this point so early in its recorded history and especially given that it's already filtered through our rather less common life experiences, so I will end my descriptions of it here. I thank you all for reading this far if you've made it and hope you found it informative or entertaining and enjoy the rest of your day as well! :)
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