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Temporarily Blind
by Doubledoon
Citation:   Doubledoon. "Temporarily Blind: An Experience with Propylhexedrine (exp114020)". Erowid.org. May 26, 2020. erowid.org/exp/114020

T+ 0:00
125 mg oral Pharms - Propylhexedrine (liquid)
  T+ 0:45 125 mg oral Pharms - Propylhexedrine (liquid)
  T+ 0:00 160 mg oral Caffeine (liquid)
  T+ 1:15   buccal Tobacco  
  T+ 8:15 0.5 mg oral Pharms - Clonazepam  
  T+ 8:15 300 mg oral Pharms - Gabapentin  
  T+ 8:15   vaporized Cannabis  
  T+ 0:00 300 mg oral Pharms - Gabapentin  
  T+ 0:00 50 mg oral Diphenhydramine  


Time of Experience: Early January 2020.
Age: 19
Weight: 143 pounds
Height: 6í0
Previous Drug Experience: Cannabis, caffeine LSD, 1P-LSD, diphenhydramine, dextromethorphan, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-HO-MET, 4-AcO-DMT, MDMA, kratom, Salvia divinorum, hawaiian baby woodrose seeds (LSA), nicotine/tobacco, alcohol, cocaine, heroin, codeine, Xanax, clonazepam, ketamine, Adderall, gabapentin, Vyvanse.

The only drugs I have encountered addiction/dependence on are nicotine and diphenhydramine. I only use psychedelics, cannabis, nicotine and occasionally alcohol with any frequency. Most recent drugs used (besides tobacco, which was used in the form of snus throughout the experience. I am an addict after all!) were cannabis 4-5 days prior, and Adderall three days prior. I take Claritin (loratadine) for my allergies sometimes, but canít recall if I took it or not that day. No other prescription drugs used.

Set: Feeling fine. Not particularly happy or sad. I donít have any shifts at my job, college classes, or other obligations scheduled for the next couple of days.

Setting: My apartment, with my girlfriend with me.

I had heard about Propylhexedrine from browsing [online]. It seemed to be the least known of the trinity of OTC highs: dextromethorphan, diphenhydramine, and propylhexedrine. I had originally planned to dose the propylhexedrine on Monday, but chose to do Adderall for the first time instead because I had heard the side effects were lesser from Adderall compared to propylhexedrine. Before either of those, the only stimulants I had taken were cocaine on a few occasions (not a fan), a 10 mg Vyvanse several months before, and had taken MDMA about four times, the last being the summer of 2019.

The way I prepared propylhexedrine (PPH) for recreational use that I used is as follows: I opened up the decongestant stick. Inside there is a cotton. I took the cotton out, and cut it up into eight pieces. The more pieces, the more propylhexedrine is available. I put the cotton into a water bottle with 40 ml of lemon juice. I let it sit for five days, because of the aforementioned Adderall experience (I prepared it on Sunday, and took the solution on Thursday). After that, I drank the solution: I did NOT eat the cotton or swallow any chunks of it. Doing that can cause intestinal blockage. Each cotton is advertised as containing 250 mg of PPH, but occasionally they are apparently over/underdosed.

I did a decent amount of research before using the drug, in order to determine my dose and what effects/health issues I may come across. Others need to do the same if they are considering using this or any other drug! All times are approximate. I drank about a gallon of water throughout the day, as I usually do.

T +0:00 I dosed at around noon, having eaten a light meal perhaps an hour before. The solution was not pleasant to drink, because there are lavender and menthol oils that are also inside the cotton. It wasnít so much the taste, but rather a stinging sensation on the tongue + a chemical feel that lingers on the tongue for a bit afterwards. There are other methods to extract the oils while leaving most of the propylhexedrine, but I didnít feel like doing them. I dosed 20 ml of the cotton solution (so roughly 125 mg) first, and then watched YouTube with my girlfriend while I waited for the effects to come on. I noticed a nice feeling of euphoria, very similar to the very beginning of an MDMA rush. However, it was different in an important regard. There was no love for everyone, strong desire to connect with others, etc that comes with MDMA. I just felt very nice in my body. My thoughts were unchanged. Slight craving for nicotine, as usual.

T+ 0:45 Took the other 20 ml of the solution. Still just as nasty. My total dose is now one full cotton, or 250 mg.

T + 1:15 The other dose is kicking in. Colors seem a bit brighter. Euphoria is ever-increasing, but it still just feels like Iím a bit deeper in an MDMA rush. I consider what I want to do. Do I want to clean, like I did on Adderall? No, not really. My thoughts are still essentially the same as they are while Iím sober. I put a snus packet in (around 4 mg nicotine) and my slight craving for nicotine goes away.

T + 1:30-3:30 I lay around, talk to my girlfriend a lot, continue watching TV. Euphoria has leveled off, but itís strong enough that Iím satisfied. Iím not that stimulated, but I do end up pacing a tiny bit more than I usually do sober. I drink a Monster energy drink (160 mg caffeine) and notice that it lifts the euphoria up almost imperceptibly and does the same to the stimulation. My mom calls me about something, and my girlfriend motions me to get off the phone after a minute or two because (I realize after I get off) Iím giving her a little too much information than is necessary and Iím talking faster than I usually do. I ate a couple light snacks throughout. Food isnít abhorrent the way it is on Adderall, but I donít really enjoy it.

T + 4:00 I decide to walk to the library on my college campus to return a book. My girlfriend comes with. Walking is nice; perhaps I am a bit stimulated. Itís not forced, though. I begin to feel a tiny bit nauseous on the way there. We go into the library, and I want to check out my favorite spot I go to while tripping. Itís on the top floor. There are large windows I like to sit in front of and look down at the campus from. Itís a nice view. Iím not entranced by it like I usually am while altered, though, and we walk back home soon after. I would have probably taken a stroll through the campus if I were alone or more stimulated, but itís a bit too cold to justify keeping my girlfriend outside with me.

T + 5:00- 7:45 Euphoria remains constant. I would venture to call this substance a euphoriant, rather than a stimulant or empathogen, if I had to classify it. It feels like a buzzing sensation throughout my body. I feel calmer, and generally at peace with everything. The euphoria does not feel very clean, though. It feels grimy, in a way. I continue to feel a tad nauseous, but I feel very okay with that. My girlfriend tells me that I didnít seem high or altered, besides pacing a bit more than usual. I think my motor skills might be a bit off, so I would not drive, though if I absolutely had to I probably could. I canít really imagine a scenario where I would like to take this. Hypothetically, a party, though I donít feel compelled to chat or dance. Despite the copious amounts of water Iím consuming, I have gone to the bathroom only one time, and donít feel like I need to urinate.

T+ 8:00 Euphoria begins to drop off, though itís almost imperceptible. I get up to go to my girlfriendís car to get her phone charger, and I notice that the light around lightbulbs seems bent, similar to psychedelics. Itís kinda cool. I also see that, looking into one of the windows on my apartmentís hallway from a distance outside, the glass seems a tad warped. As I walk back up the stairs and into the hallway leading to my apartment, I notice that my vision is beginning to darken. By the time I get into my apartment, I cannot see at all, and manage to fumble my way into my bedroom. My girlfriend asks whatís wrong, and then my vision returns: first outlines of objects appear, then full color. The entire event was like when you stand up too fast and canít see for a second, but it lasted much longer. I explain that I temporarily went blind, but I feel okay. On one level, I donít really care, but on another level I I look around [online] to see if anybody else has had this effect, and I find a post saying that itís semi-common and can happen if youíre dehydrated. Iím certainly not dehydrated, so Iíd guess itís just due to the drugís effects on blood pressure or something of that sort.

T+ 8:15 I go out into the kitchen to get something to eat, and am hit with another blindness attack.
T+ 8:15 I go out into the kitchen to get something to eat, and am hit with another blindness attack.
I lean against the wall and wait for it to pass. I feel a tad anxious because of it, and decide to stay lying down. I start to feel a moderate headache. Iím also still nauseous. I can tell Iím going to be ďupĒ for a while, so I take 0.5 mg of clonazepam to relax me, along with 300 mg of gabapentin a few minutes later. I vaporize some cannabis (maybe .35 grams), which would usually get me quite stoned, but I only get a mild buzz.

T+ 8:15-12:30 I lay in bed and browse on my phone. Nothing seems interesting, and the euphoria at this point is minimal. My girlfriend falls asleep at around T+10:30.

T+ 12:30- 17:00 I try to lay down and fall asleep, but end up staring at my eyelids for a long time and getting frustrated each time. I feel sober at this point, but not tired. Itís like itís the middle of a normal day. At some point, I take another 300 mg of gabapentin, as well as 50 mg of diphenhydramine. That finally relaxes me, and I end up falling asleep around 5:00-5:30 A.M.

Overall, the euphoria was nice, but nothing to write home about. It felt a bit too grimy for my taste. Another experience report said that it felt like there was ďmotor oil in my veinsĒ, and I can say thatís pretty accurate. I wasnít very stimulated and didnít feel like doing much, and the weird side effect of going temporarily blind was not enjoyable at all. I donít think Iíll be taking this substance again.

Exp Year: 2020ExpID: 114020
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 19 
Published: May 26, 2020Views: 1,115
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