Fishing for the Moon in the Well
Salvia divinorum, LSD & Cannabis
Citation: Munsu. "Fishing for the Moon in the Well: An Experience with Salvia divinorum, LSD & Cannabis (exp114586)". Erowid.org. Jul 26, 2025. erowid.org/exp/114586
| DOSE: T+ 0:00 |
half hits | oral | LSD | (blotter / tab) |
| T+ 0:00 | 2-3 joints/cigs | smoked | Cannabis | (flowers) |
| T+ 1:30 | 6-8 g | oral | Salvia divinorum | (tea) |
| BODY WEIGHT: | 75 kg |
Quick summary: The date today is 10th of July, 2020 and I am currently 30 years old. I am a farmer from Southeastern Europe, so please forgive me for my English. I am just another human struggling with his journey of self-discovery and his inner demons. I guess I could say that I am not a beginner with psychedelic substances but I am by no means a seasoned veteran. I am currently experimenting with Salvia, a few days ago I got some new Salvia supplies consisting of 2 grams of 20X and 0,5 gram of 40X but I haven’t touched them yet. I am kind of afraid of Salvia and I don’t want to rush anything. Salvia is too sacred to do so casually. I don’t practice any religion but I am not an atheist. I believe in my personal spiritual journey. I find Buddhism and Daoism much more appealing although I don’t actively practice them by the book and I wouldn’t label them as “religions”. In fact at best I could barely claim to have a faint understanding over some of their concepts. I am writing this report to help me recollect the experience I am about to share with you as part of my way of preparing for the next Salvia trips.
It was during the late autumn of 2019, on a Saturday night where I was over at my girlfriend’s place for the weekend. I had no obligations for Sunday so it was a perfect weekend to try something different. Unlike my “Unchained” report, this time I didn’t really have a specific goal in mind, my worldly desires to fill the void and find answers without sweating had gotten the better of me. I was experimenting with Salvia that period and I had ordered a package consisting of 10gram of dry leaves and 5, 10 & 20X extracts of 1gram each.
This time I happened to get my hands on some nice acid tabs and had some Salvia supplies left, specifically about 6-8grams of dry-leaves, 1gr of 5X and less than a gram 10X. Unfortunately I didn’t know exactly how potent the acid was to give specific details about it. I just trusted my childhood friend that gave it to me. On my personal scale I would give it a 7.7-8.3/10 compared to my other acid experiences. Not that this makes much sense to the people that will read this report I guess.
Moving on, that time because I had in my possession Salvia and LSD I was wondering what would happen if I tried Salvia tea with LSD. So I did a little research to see if there were any reports online about it, surely other people must have tried this I thought and indeed, they had.After looking around for a bit I found one interesting report, to be honest I don’t really remember what that specific experience was like because I was more focused on the “technical stuff”. I only remember this line “..drink the tea when the LSD starts to kick in..” it made sense to me so I decided to give it a try. I knew that it took about 90 minutes to start feeling the effects with the tabs I had so I took half of the tab and relaxed on the couch, waiting for 90 minutes to pass, while enjoying 2-3 joints with my girlfriend.
After 70 minutes passed, I started preparing the tea. I decided to just throw most of the leaves inside the pot, only keeping about 1 gram of them and brewed them for about 5-10 minutes? I don’t remember exactly, I just relied on some typical instructions I found online about the tea preparation. My girlfriend likes to brew tea from various herbs so I just followed my intuition and added some pinches of extra stuff inside which I don’t remember by name or the exact amount of each but they were low in quantity. I only remember that among them were some sage and a bit of absinthium.
Anyway, after brewing the tea I covered the top of the pot and waited another 10 minutes. No sugar or honey was added. Finally the tea was ready. I should also mention that my girlfriend wanted to try a bit of LSD and I gave her like 1/10th of the tab. Perhaps it was even less.
Now at this point I must mention this, since it is related with what followed. My girlfriend, who is also my best friend’s sister (I asked for his blessing before dating her!), was going to the university in another city and had to abandon her studies because of an incident. The scum that was dating with her at that time gave her some sort of substance without her knowing through a drink, she suspects that he was giving her lower doses of whatever the hell that was daily in secret since he was kinda insisting of making her coffee etc. As a result.. this caused her to an intense nightmarish trip that lasted for about 10 or more days. And when I say nightmare trip I mean darkness, agony, seeing the sky ripping apart and blood falling down.. things like that. Seems similar to a Datura trip but I can’t know for sure. Anyway, I won’t say any more about this since that’s not what the report is about, but for the record I was by her side through this ordeal, had a part into helping her and a few weeks after she got over it, to this day we are together as a couple.
My point being: She is VERY sensitive to mind-altering substances, which is why I was hesitant and super careful about her dosage. Perhaps it would help perhaps not, whatever the case I am not qualified to suggest or encourage any sort of psychedelic treatment experiments on other people, especially with her case, since I love her and her family trusted me and have treated me very well. That amount of LSD didn’t have any noticeable effects on her, she was just fine. But I didn’t know and couldn’t know that for sure at that time since I was tripping. I actually thought that she was tripping pretty hard, way harder than me. I’ll get to why I mentioned this situation with my girlfriend soon. But it was a mistake, a sitter must be someone who is able to keep you in place, not someone that you as the user are worrying about.
Back to the main story, Currently sitting in the living room with Om Mani Padme Hum mantra playing on the background, which I consider as the magical “music” that helps me concentrate when I am meditating or tripping, the tea was ready and the way I took it was by holding it in my mouth for as long as I could before swallowing. About 5-10 minutes with each gulp. You don’t have to swallow it but I felt it would be a waste to spit it. The taste was amazing. It was bitter, but it had this herbal/medicinal bitter taste which I enjoyed a lot because I was also thinking that this is what a botanical tea should taste like! You know since they say that a good medicine should taste bitter. That was my mindset at that moment. Everything is going fine and I am happy.
After 15-20 minutes and with about half the tea remaining I started feeling the effects. I never finished the cup of tea. At first I was feeling something different, as time passed slowly but surely my vision had this dreamy effect, becoming stronger by the moment. The whole process was very smooth, one step at the time. It felt like it would just reach a mildly point and it would stop. But it didn’t stop. It was becoming stronger. I remember looking around and it was like seeing behind a flowing water curtain, my vision was also getting foggy. Just like when I am watching a movie and it’s obvious that I am watching a scene taking place in the character’s dream.Suddenly I felt like I was standing before this sacred, very gentle presence! I didn’t see something strange but at the same time I did, I mean the world around me wasn’t exactly “normal”. But I was still in the living room. At that point I thought that this is the embrace of the Goddess Salvia! It had a feminine vibe to it and it felt incredibly real. It was one of the most sacred feelings I've ever experienced.
Immediately I lowered my head out of respect and begged for forgiveness while my palms were in a V shape with the fingers of each palm tightly joined together, similar to a karate chop, the Sacred Cup between the tip of my hands and then thanked Lady Salvia for allowing me to feel her presence. It felt the right thing to do. My sense of self started to dissolve. I felt like I was God himself.
the Sacred Cup between the tip of my hands and then thanked Lady Salvia for allowing me to feel her presence. It felt the right thing to do. My sense of self started to dissolve. I felt like I was God himself.
I was able to calm down myself and started thinking various things about the purpose of life, why am I here, who am I etc. But the building up effect had yet to reach its peak. I don’t know if it is because the Salvia tea is more gentle by nature or if it was the acid somehow affecting my brain chemistry, I suspect the absinthium played a part in this as well, but no matter how hard I was tripping that night I was fully aware during the whole trip of where I was, at least my physical body and that I had taken acid with Salvia tea. I was crystal clear aware of those things. Unlike my other Salvia experiences where I don’t remember I took Salvia and everything I see and feel just makes perfect sense without questioning it. I believe this played a huge role, because the unknown is always scary, I was sailing in uncharted waters.
I was starting to get really scared now, as a human being I tried to compare what I was feeling with something my mind could grasp and “measure” for my current situation, I had taken a whole tab of the same acid a few days ago. During the whole trip I stayed in my room. It was intense, but nowhere near losing control. At some point it felt overwhelming but all I had to do was play the Om Mani Padme Hum mantra and voila! I was able to calm down and vision the acid like a raging typhoon inside a sealed bottle, where the bottle was my own body. Today I won I thought. It was a wonderful night.
However this time, the besieger became the besieged. I want to go home right now I thought! I will be safe there! But then it struck me, why? Why would I feel safe in my house, inside my room? Just what is it that gives me the comfort that my bed is the safest place on earth during times like this? Literally nothing changes besides my mindset. I was trying to resolve and debunk these issues because it was the only way to move forward.
At this point if my body was a cup, it was filled with fear, the fear was slightly over the top of the cup but it was still inside it, at the brink of spilling out. The trip’s intensity was still going up. That’s when the first drops started to spill out. I wanted to call my friends and go outside to meet them, they had went over to a party. I stopped myself from doing that. I was just going to have them looking after me and affect their party mood. I knew that escaping wasn’t the answer. There is no escape now. At that point I was walking back and forth thinking and trying to keep a hold of myself.
I was fully aware that if I sat down and closed my eyes for a bit I would be catapulted into the unknown and it didn’t feel like it would be for 5-10 minutes like usual. My girlfriend had smoked a few joints and she was laid back, talking a bit slowly due to the weed. A typical high-on-weed behavior. However at that time because of that, it seemed to me that she was tripping balls, oh no I thought, she is actually tripping way harder than me! “Oh fuck! , y-y-you piece of shit! What the hell have you done!”
After the trip was over I realized that my monkey mind was using this lame excuse of my girlfriend supposingly tripping, in order to stay in touch with my familiar sense of reality. I’ve served as a combat medic in Special Forces for a year, army service is mandatory here, and while I am not a “commando” or a real medic despite having a diploma claiming otherwise, I’ve seen some nasty stuff that has helped me staying calm under stressful situations in my everyday life. It’s important to exude a calm presence when someone is injured or needs medical help even if you don’t know what the fuck is going on just to help them calm down until a real doctor comes to treat them.
My defensive mechanisms were on high alert. I was using whatever strength of will I could muster to suppress the Salvia and acid. Obviously this wasn’t going to work. I was on the verge of going completely mad and the trip wasn’t going to end anytime soon. The unknown was summoning me, it was really insisting that I should stop resisting immediately and surrender. But I somehow managed to hold on for her sake or so I thought, creating more excuses to avoid what my initial trip goal was, because she needs me now and I was responsible for the non- existent immense tripping she was going through. At this point about 90-120 minutes had passed since I put down the Salvia tea.
During the hell I was going through I tried my best to keep it inside me and not showing it on the surface, in order to maintain a calm demeanor since I wasn’t with people that use psychedelics but with my girl which simply smokes weed from time to time. Mistake after mistake, my set and setting was wrong. I had completely underestimated the intensity of the seemingly harmless tea while on acid.
I needed to calm down so we decided to order some food and go inside the bedroom until food arrives. Sexual release can help me calm down from these kind of situations. The act was over and she went to the bathroom, I had calm down a bit but I was still tripping.
And then the doorbell rang. The delivery man had arrived. Fuck! I had to open the door. Once again I pushed myself to muster my strength and somehow managed to quickly put some clothes on and open the door. It was thanks to this that I was finally able to start sobering up, because the intense tripping phase begun to fade away. Phew, it’s all good now. The exit door was visible.
For a moment instead of tea I thought of smoking the extract. Perhaps the upside to that would be that by cutting off my "escape route" completely and just go for it, since I don’t have any other option. But with the tea, I had the options, kind of. I wouldn’t label it is a “bad trip” it was insightful, it made me more humble. There wasn’t any external threat just overwhelming fear for the unknown while being conscious of the process unfolding before me. It’s funny, sometimes in theory I know what I should do if this or that happens and it doesn’t seem like that much of a deal, I am “prepared” but when it actually happens it’s not easy. It turns out I wasn’t prepared and I wasn’t ready for it.
This combination is still on my to-do list and hopefully the time will come when I will be able to do it properly. However before going there, to this day I still haven’t achieved to travel completely in other dimensions while remembering the experience afterwards. In other words to use the Salvia scale, I’ve never achieved a level 5 trip. Maybe I am just sabotaging myself instead of doing the changes I must to do in my life to achieve harmony.
When I do Salvia I am almost always with my trusted friend and fellow Salvia-explorer, let’s call him S, who is acting as a sitter to me and vice-versa. I do not dare to do 10X and above alone in case I do something messed up in my trance, although sometimes I feel I should just do it.
Ideally I want to fast and meditate for a while in order to have a more light sense of my body, to feel as empty as possible and then reassure my intentions before doing Salvia. The best time would be at dawn. Since I am a farmer I am used to waking up when it’s still dark outside, the image of the dawn arriving and the sun rising behind the mountains sundering the night is really inspiring and full of hope. I find these hours to be my most productive. But who am I kidding? Little Demetrius is full of theories instead of actions. Who in their right mind would want to act as sitter at 5 am for me anyway?
Due to work and other stuff going on me and S rarely have the chance to get together and do Salvia. However he has recorded me on video after taking Salvia hits of 10X and 20X extracts. On some occasions where I have blank memory spots about what just happened during the experience I am mumbling things. There are certain things I say that piqued my interest and I myself don’t have any recollection about them. Some of them go like this:
“They are waiting for me” “The guys came to pick me up, I am going now”
And there is also a bus coming, the bus has come twice so far according to what I am mumbling during my trance state. I need to get aboard the bus. In one occasion there was something going on about a person not entering the bus and delaying the ride. “Stop delaying the bus and get aboard right now, or I will start removing your nails one by one.” Honestly I have no idea why I said that, my voice sounded really funny with a childish tone to it. As if I was joking to someone with long and sharp nails.
time I’ve done Salvia I always I feel positive during and after the experience while I’ve never felt any discomfort.
time I’ve done Salvia I always I feel positive during and after the experience while I’ve never felt any discomfort.
My friend S says that he is a bit envy of me because I always seem so happy but I am also quite envy of him, because he just catapults to other dimensions with 1/3 of the dosage I need to use to start feeling the effects and I feel like I need to do another hit while being on the hype to take off completely, which I am hesitant of taking so far and also because he described something that I found incredibly profound. I also have immense respect for the man. He got over his heroin addiction and has a wonderful wife and an honest work. In contrast to other people in my environment that, let’s just say that they are engaged in some legally questionable activities.
Allow me to share a tiny bit of S’s experience. He is also scared of Salvia but even still, our curiosity is greater than our fear, a distinct human trait right?
While he was outside of our dimension there was a female entity that told him: “You again?” But she wasn’t angry, more like an adult watching a kid skipping class. The reason I find that particular bit so profound is because it falls in line with a question I feel I need to pay attention to, which I have also seen from reading other Salvia reports, where there are entities looking on the Salvia-travelers with disappointment or with puzzled expressions. Why would they look at people like that? What could possibly be the reason?
It reminds me of myself when I am at a festival and I am looking at yet another random lad coming up to me while tripping to introduce himself, shake my hand and tell me that he loves me with a vacant look in his eyes because he feels the “love” and he goes on doing the same with other people. I want to tell him to shut up and find the feeling of love and compassion on his own but naturally I just smile, pat him and say I love him back because I don’t want to possibly affect his trip in a negative way.
I am concluding more and more towards the theory that we have descended into the material world to explore, to learn a lesson. In my opinion using psychedelic tools allows you to take some sneak peaks, but the point is to achieve the feeling of completion naturally through mediation, without relying on external help. I will never learn how to truly walk or run on my own if I use crutches.
However these are big words for someone like me, who is more interested in doing substances rather than meditation. Ironically, sometimes I do like borrowing the “pressure” of an incoming trip to meditate about issues bothering me before tripping. I solved my "I want to die" issue before going on a Salvia trip. I am going to borrow a quote from my previous report about it.
"Before we met up, I went into the shower and sat down in lotus position under the falling water in order to clear my mind. Why am doing this, I thought, am I looking for an answer, can I actually find an answer from Salvia or am I making a mistake because some people reported negative feelings like panic, confusion etc and I was going to make everything worse? My intentions became clear, the answer wasn’t in Salvia by itself I was doing this for the journey along the way and will try not to have any self-projected expectations about what will happen."
| Exp Year: 2019 | ExpID: 114586 |
| Gender: Male | |
| Age at time of experience: 30 | |
| Published: Jul 26, 2025 | Views: Not Supported |
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