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Lucid Dream After Lucid Dream
Galantamine, Choline, 5-HTP & Vitamin B-6
by MisterJingo
Citation:   MisterJingo. "Lucid Dream After Lucid Dream: An Experience with Galantamine, Choline, 5-HTP & Vitamin B-6 (exp114849)". Erowid.org. Oct 18, 2020. erowid.org/exp/114849

 
DOSE:
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600 mg oral alpha-GPC
  T+ 0:00 200 mg oral Tryptophan - 5-HTP
  T+ 4:00 600 mg oral alpha-GPC
  T+ 4:00 1 tablet oral Vitamin B-6
  T+ 4:00 16 mg oral Galantamine

BODY WEIGHT: 210 lb


Galantamine and Lucid Dreaming

Iíve been doing more experimentation with this substance, usually on Sat and Sun mornings when I donít have to be up too early. My findings so far are that timing is key Ė from one's bed time to what time one wakes up and doses, to how long one stays awake.

The most successful formula Iíve hit upon is bedtime around 2:30 am. I take 600 mg of alpha gpc (choline) and 200 mg of 5-HTP for REM rebound.

Wake after 4 hours sleep and take 16 mg Galantamine and another 600 mg of alpha GPC and a tablet of high strength vitamin B. The one Iím using has 714 times the RDA of B6, so pretty high. The B vitamin might be unneeded, but thereís a lot of research showing that B6 increases both dream recall and vividity.

It should be noted that I regularly go to sleep around 2:30-3am Ė this is what works for me in my circadian rhythm.

I also take Piracetam after the lucid dreams to counter the effects of the Galantamine
I also take Piracetam after the lucid dreams to counter the effects of the Galantamine
Ė Iíve read this stops tolerance building.

At first the 16 mg Galantamine was too much, but taking it at the correct time within the sleep cycle (and perhaps a certain familiarity with its effects at this dose) ensures it doesnít affect getting back to sleep.

I have been using a mind machine over the past week (a Laxman), and using it while meditating, this might explain the lucidity and control felt in this morningís experiments.

On taking the Galantamine this morning, I did a breath based meditation, which led me into sleep. Also, when going to sleep last night, I set the intent to have an OBE or a lucid dream while also doing a breath-based meditation.

The lucid dreams themselves were just phenomenal. They started off a bit hazy and perhaps driven by base desire (a link with the initial low lucidity?) but after utilising a tactile based reinforcement technique (stamping my feet and clapping my hands hard) they quickly turned into experiences in which I had full emotional and tactile sensation. At one point I tasted a bit of card, and I could feel its glossy texture on my tongue. It was pretty amazing.

The characters I interacted with in the LDs seemed fully aware and capable of deep conversation.

I experienced no sleep paralysis just LD after LD, after false awakening, after LD. I actually didnít know how to wake up! Iíve never experienced anything like this before, usually LDs donít last long and one tries to extend them, but I felt like Iíd been in the LDs for hours and I couldnít wake up. I physically felt apprehension for a short while and went and spoke to one of the LD characters near me at the time about this.

Not long after this I woke up very groggy, and asked my wife if I was awake, I then stumbled to the window and opened it, and climbed onto the sill. She was shouting that I was awake and to get away from the window. Waves were crashing below, which should have told me that I was still in a LD. She pulled me from the window and back into bed. Not long after I managed to force myself awake. I think the hazy nature was because I was near waking, so neither reality or the LD environment had complete grasp of my senses.

During the LDs I seemed to have complete control. At one point I wanted to visit my daughter, and I found myself in a locale which was touched with her presence. It looked more child-like. I found her and picked her up and walked with her for a while.

After some time we found ourselves in a narrow passage, flanked on each side by tall, old stone brick walls. Trees were overhead, and I sensed we were in a countryside locale. At one end of the passage was an unkempt looking youth, at the other a fox like beast.

The youth was telling me the beast was dangerous and I should stay away. I next seemed to be infused with knowledge of the situation, I flew up to get a view of the area I was in, and was experiencing an influx of knowledge. The people the youth belong to had taken some of the fox like beasts ancestors into captivity and bred them with other creatures. They had created a troll like form of the fox creature and now there was animosity on both sides.

Other experiences included flying military style helicopters while shouting with glee as I swooped at high speed across a green countryside landscape. I was talking to other people in nearby helicopters joining me in this game.

I had quite a few experiences of speaking to people I know in RL, they were highly articulate, and we could have full conversations. But they didnít recognise me. It was interesting to note the expressions moving across their face as they tried to work out who I was.

Most of the experiences were bright and good. A couple were dark - interestingly, it was when I entered dark rooms that I felt any negative presence, or felt constrained by an negative entity. But having such a degree of lucidity, I easily escaped these situations.

Iím still smiling as I type up these experiences. Again, Iíve never experienced not being able to wake up from LDs before!

Exp Year: 2013ExpID: 114849
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 33 
Published: Oct 18, 2020Views: 172
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