Citation: AcidFreak1424. "The One Line I Regret Snorting: An Experience with N-Ethylhexedrone & alpha-PHP (exp115724)". Erowid.org. Sep 29, 2021. erowid.org/exp/115724
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This is my first experience with pyrovalerones. I have experience with most common drugs. I like to think that I am a psychonaut with self-control who can use substances responsibly .
To clarify: With pyros, I mean pyrovalerones, a chemical class within the cathinone-class.
T -1:30: I took 7g of Kratom with no tolerance.
T -0:10: I'm feeling relaxed and euphoric. I measure out 25mg of hexen, I am telling myself that I will not redose no matter what. (I have experience with various addictive substances and ALWAYS managed to resist the urge to redose.)
T +0:00: I insufflate the 25mg. There is an immediate burn but it subsides after about 30 seconds. I decide to watch some anime.
T +0:10: Suddenly a wave of positive energy and physical euphoria washes over me. I would say it is very similar to a low dose of good coke. I immediately get the urge to increase the effects. I feel like if I would redose right now and only once, something magical will happen. I could not resist the urge and decide to go for a small booster-dose of 10mg.
T +0:15: I insufflate the additional 10mgs and continue watching.
T +0:25: The increase in effects is small but noticeable. I decide to listen to some music and smoke a cigarette. The cigarette seemed to increase the euphoria for a bit but sent my heart rate skyrocketing.
T +0:40: Euphoria is still there.I decide to try fapping. It felt good but coming was a very difficult thing to do to say the least.
T +0:50: The euphoria has lessened significantly but I still feel better than sober. The urge to redose is strong but I manage to resist because there will be a family dinner in about an hour and I don't want to look fcked up. I instead decide to try out a-PHP later in the day.
T +1:00: No more euphoria, just a lot, uncomfortable and not so clean stimulation. I feel spaced out and am shivering and shaking slightly. My heart rate feels dangerously high.
T +1:20: I feel dysphoric and depressed. I want to go back to heaven. I understand now just how horrible this comedown must be after a binge, when it's already so bad after just a (low) common dose.
T +1:30: I am just lying in my bed and hope for this to end. I still think it's a good idea to try out a-PHP later (I am still experiencing cravings). I tell myself the a-PHP will be my ultimate reward for bearing this depression.
T +1:40: My mom calls for dinner. I get some anxiety because I know there is no way to act sober. I go to the bathroom and look in the mirror. I haven't looked this fcked up in quite awhile lol. I am getting some nausea now and my heart feels like it's exploding out of my chest. I feel mentally spaced out, almost like the after-effects of some dissociative.
T +2:00: I almost threw up while eating. I feel ashamed for letting my parents see me in this state. There is a headache now which makes me think I am going to have a stroke in the next minutes.
T +2:30: The worst of all side effects I would say is the stimulation. It prevents me from getting comfortable in any position no matter what and forces me to constantly move some part of my body. The fear of stroke and heat-attack are still present.
T +3:00: I'm just laying in my bed and stare into nothingness. I don't even want to listen to music or do anything else. Thinking about what would have happened if I had redosed another time sends shivers down my spine.
T +3:30: I read every report about a-PHP I could find. (I still couldn't think very clearly and wanted to get my so-desired reward (pure stupidity)). I decide I would first measure my heart rate and blood pressure before snorting another stim (wise decision). My heart rate was 145bpm and blood pressure 153/95. Luckily this scared me enough to wait another hour.
T +4:30: My heart rate is now at 120bpm and blood pressure at 140/90. I measure out 10mgs of a-PHP and divide it into 2 lines. I am hesitant to snort it. I had a vivid thought of a voice telling me "you will regret this" and "there goes your life". This scared the hell out of me and I decide to reduce the amount to 7mgs and snort it. It burns quite a bit but not quite as bad as the hexen. I have snorted wayyy worse stuff than this. The only thing that grosses me out to the point that I'm close to puking again is the smell of cum whenever I breathe. Itís like someone just came into my nostrils. I am putting my bag of a-PHP back in the glass with my other chems, expecting not to open it again tonight (lol).
T +4:50: This took much longer to come up than the hexen but it is very pleasant. This feels VERY different from hexen. The euphoria is not as cold and pure and I am seemingly clear headed (delusion). This feels not completely unlike MDMA in the sense that the euphoria is very warm. I would describe it as very pleasurable tingling-sensations that are present EVERYWHERE in the body. There is also very little forced stimulation, I have no problem relaxing in bed and watching anime. There is little desire to move my body.
T +4:55: Yes I think it's a good idea to redose 5mgs. I tell myself this will be it for the night because I don't want to use a benzo to sleep (it's 9:30 pm.). The cum smell intensifies to an extent where I had to go to the bathroom, but didn't throw up.
T +5:10: Why couldn't god make us be in this state forever. I am still watching anime and am sometimes sightly crying because this feels so wonderful (never had this reaction on a drug, not even on coke or MDMA).
T +5:30: I am enjoying this so much I want this moment to never end. My heart rate feels quite high, but definitely not as high as on hexen. I decide to go for another LAST (lol) 6mgs.
T +5:50: It feels like it has been increasingly intensifying since the onset. I am emotionally deeply connected to the series I am watching: e.g. when something lovely happens, I would cry of joy.
T +6:00: I decide to try the music enhancing effect of the substance. It is amazing, not quite as amazing as with 5-MeO-MIPT, but unlike any other stim I've tried.
T +6:10: I am thinking about adding another 9mgs but decide to wait for another bit because my heart is quite pounding at this point. I feel like the offset has begun.
T +6:30: The offset is slow and steady. It is so much more gentle than the "crash" from hexen. I occasionally get the thought of flushing the hexen because who wants that shit if there's a-PHP, right?
T +6:50: Somehow I managed to convince myself that if I would redose again, there would be no way I could sleep without a benzo. Pleasant effects are gone by now.
T +7:20: I am surprised that I am feeling little to no side-effects right now. I am maybe slightly dizzy but that's about it. There also is no uncomfortable residual stimulation.
T +8:00: I am noticing an odd side effect, I usually get from weed: Breathing has gone from automatic to manual. Also my chest feels a bit tight (vasoconstriction).
T +10:30: I am not tired but I really want to sleep now.
T +11:45: I finally managed to fall asleep now. Thank god l didn't end up redosing another time.
Next Day: I feel sluggish and my thinking is impaired. The thought of snorting another line doesn't leave me for most of the day. There even was a point where I got the scale ready for another line, but managed to keep control.
I feel much better the second day.
Conclusion: I am a quite experienced psychonaut and have experience with various substances. I always managed to consume responsibly with every (re)dose planned ahead. Not so much with these two substances. I commonly found myself coming up with reasons to redose and use it more often in the future. I failed the first time ever resisting a redose, this could have easily gone out of control and get myself addicted to pyros. I will take a couple months break from all drugs now and I don't know if I will ever do pyrovalerones again. I have always wondered if there was a way to consume them responsibly but I know now this is most likely impossible for anyone. My suggestion to anyone wanting to try out pyros is to take the desired dose out of the bag and give it to a friend meanwhile and tell them to flush it if you are asking for the bag while high.
TLDR: Tried pyros for my first time and nearly ended my life in a mess.
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