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A Trip to Dementia or Worse
5-MAPB, Ketamine, 4-Methylmethcathinone, MAL, LSD, O-PCE & Cannabis
Citation:   Pusher. "A Trip to Dementia or Worse: An Experience with 5-MAPB, Ketamine, 4-Methylmethcathinone, MAL, LSD, O-PCE & Cannabis (exp116326)". May 17, 2022.

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60 mg oral 5-MAPB (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:30 40 mg oral 5-MAPB (powder / crystals)
  T+ 4:35 1 line insufflated Ketamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 5:45 3 lines insufflated Ketamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 7:00   insufflated Ketamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 7:00 80 mg oral 5-MAPB (powder / crystals)
  T+ 7:40   insufflated 5-MAPB (powder / crystals)
  T+ 7:40   smoked Cannabis  
  T+ 8:35   insufflated 4-Methylmethcathinone (powder / crystals)
  T+ 9:00   oral Methallylescaline  
  T+ 9:30 1 hit oral LSD  
  T+ 10:00 1 line insufflated Ketamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 10:30 1 bump insufflated 2'-Oxo-PCE (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:00   repeated smoked Cannabis  
I had aquired 100mg of 5MAPB. It was my first time trying this substance. I was on an empty stomach.

22:00: I put in a rolling paper 60mg of 5MAPB. I start to notice the first MDMA like effects after 10 minutes or so. Very familiar place.

22:30: Not much is going on so I eat the rest 40mg of 5MAPB.

22:50: I'm now rolling very hard. People was saying 5MAPB was more seducing but to me this was like a speedy MDMA. Felt very clean and stimulating. My mind was working really fast and was very euphoric. This was by far a better of version of the MDMA I would get from the street.

11:00 till 01:30 all I did was chatting on Facebook with a girl I like. I said things I've never told her. Fear was non existant. I never stay on my pc on drugs but this one was very worth it. I was so absorbed on the chat I almost forgot to play any music.

01:45: A friend had asked me to find him some 4MMC the previous day so I text him and tell him that my guy is available and we could even go now and get it. I would trade with the friend 2g of 4mmc for 150mg 5mapb and 300mg 4fmph. The guy also had LSD and really good ketamine. I tell him I'll need also half g 4mmc for me and 0.3 ketamine. He also gave me a tab of LSD to try.

Around 02:35: I'm back home still rolling hard on 5mapb. The jaw clenching on this is really nuts but I'm used to it. Had no magnesium but it's OK. I've had worse. One thing that impressed me was the duration of it. With street MDMA my roll lasts around 2 hours. This one was going hard. So I'm back home and first thing I do is rail some ketamine. Around 25mg. I feel it instantly and it's a very warm hug. I don't like ketamine by itself. But with another drugs is pure bliss. Ketamine makes me philosophical and very confident but not cocky. I'm talking about the calm confidence. Pure soul power.

03:45: I've railed around 65mg more in 3 rails and I get the need for some company. I go through Facebook to see if any friend is online at that time. So I text a guy that I get to see from time to time and he is a cool guy but we've never hanged out in in a setting like this. He agrees to come and by 05:00 he is in my place.

05:00: Friend is here. We rail some ketamine and I also eat another 80mg of 5MAPB. 5MAPB was still working until that time which was around 7 hours from the time I've eaten it. Amazing. I eat the 5mapb, we roll some ket and I'm tripping really hard.

05:40: I rail 30mg of 5MAPB. I instantly feel it peaking with the last 80mg I ate. We roll a joint. Feels great.

06:35 I rail 30mg of 4mmc. The smell of this one is disgusting but fuck that.

07:00: We make 2 MAL bombs to share. Around 25mg each.

07:30: I eat 50 or 70ug of LSD. Not sure about the strength of those but they are good quality.

08:00: I'm now peaking on MAL-LSD and I think we only has at that time only 2 rails left of ketamine. We snort it and I'm in a really euphoric state.

08:30: I decide to try the O-PCE so I rail approximately 4mg out of the 10mg the capsule had.

09:00: This is where things stop making sense and I'm thrown in a very dark territory. It was like I was a 5 year old child that his mother left alone in a place far from everyone and it was dark. The energy of fear was very present but I couldn't just observe it and stop identifying with it. I was fear and despair. My self image was one of pity. I felt weak, ugly, unable to form a single thought, I became arrogant, cocky, miserable. The guy who was with me really tried to help me but he was also making things worse.
My self image was one of pity. I felt weak, ugly, unable to form a single thought, I became arrogant, cocky, miserable. The guy who was with me really tried to help me but he was also making things worse.
He took almost everything personally where I told him I can't do much right now. I'm in a very dark place. I can't differentiate bad thoughts. I'm the thoughts and I can't find supplies to get out of it. But even staying there wasn't the solution. So I was fighting through trying and not trying. Even if he tried to help me my memory was keeping information for only like 10 seconds. Then I forget everything. I was like an old man suffering from dementia.

I can't keep track of time from now on. I was very deep in a loop I couldn't seem to get out. Everything was dark and pointless. I did it. I fucked up my brain forever. I'll stay forever like this. Wrecked and vegetable. You are getting punished for your stupid decisions. You lost every ability to do anything. I pushed it very far. But no. I don't deserve this. Come on. Fucking ego driven decisions? I was not me. It was like every bit of soul I had was sucked out from dark demonic energies. I want to stay alone. I ask him if he can leave but he is also tripping hard. He was making things worse. U want me to leave? Why? U can't handle your thoughts with me here? Dude where is the problem to me wanting some alone time? It makes me seem like a pussy or what? I really wanted him to leave he was acting very arrogant fuck that. I was trying to express my thoughts and it was like explaining a situation where : This chair is black, and this wall is white. I was so vegetable at that time that I had forgot everything and even the simplest observations were somewhat important. The reaction of the guy was : You think I'm stupid? And he was making fun of me.

As hours pass by I somewhat can feel myself coming back. I somehow think I was lucky and I will be able to still be a "normal" person after this experience.

Around 19:00: I tell him to leave. I want you to leave. I don't care if u cant drive. U can take a taxi. Just leave now dude. He made fun of me, laughing to my disability to handle this with someone around. Fuck you dude.

Few hours later I go to sleep and I woke up today feeling great actually. 0 hangover. I feel refreshed like after a good trip.

Conclusion: What I did was super stupid. I am very lucky to come back from this like a normal person. I should stick with 5mapb, mal, ketamine and some acid. Fuck the 4mmc and opce with this. Opce is very weird. Very dark. I don't wanna work with it again. I'll throw the rest. And not saying this to blame the substance. I'm sure it has its use, but working again with opce I'm pretty sure it will cause me a dementia-like state again. I don't regret what I did but I don't think I'll go that far again mixing so many substances.

Exp Year: 2022ExpID: 116326
Gender: Not Specified 
Age at time of experience: Not Given
Published: May 17, 2022Views: 2,063
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4-Methylmethcathinone (458), Methallylescaline (586), Ketamine (31), 5-MAPB (624), 2'-Oxo-PCE (703) : Difficult Experiences (5), Combinations (3), Various (28)

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