Fast, Euphoric, Whirlwind
25B-NBOH & Ketamine
Citation: Lone. "Fast, Euphoric, Whirlwind: An Experience with 25B-NBOH & Ketamine (exp116395)". Erowid.org. Jun 14, 2022. erowid.org/exp/116395
DOSE: T+ 0:00 |
3 mg | sublingual | 25B-NBOH | |
T+ 1:55 | 1 mg | oral | Etizolam | |
T+ 5:00 | 150 mg | Ketamine | ||
T+ 8:00 | 1 mg | oral | Etizolam | |
T+ 0:00 | repeated | smoked | Cannabis | |
T+ 0:00 | repeated | oral | Alcohol - Beer/Wine | |
T+ 0:00 | 300 mg | oral | Pharms - Bupropion | (daily) |
T+ 0:00 | 4 - 6 g | oral | Kratom | (daily) |
BODY WEIGHT: | 180 lb |
Medications: 300mg XL Bupropion; 4-6 grams of kratom dosed daily upon waking
ROA: Sublingual
Previous experience: 16 psychedelics; 17 dissociatives; DMT Breakthroughs; Lots of combinations; The only phenethylamine’s I have tried so far have been 2C-B and 2C-D. I consider myself moderately experienced. Obviously, I am more experienced than most, but I know there is more to explore and room for me to go deeper.
Setting and setting
At home with the house to myself. It’s a beautiful day and I’m in a great mood. I am very bored, and I wish I could hang out with a friend. I decide to trip kind of on a whim. I was planning on taking 2C-E for the first time sometime this week, but it is 7pm and I know the duration is much longer for that than 25B-NBOH (which I have also been curious about for a long time). I am already properly stoned as well.
I should mention that I just started Bupropion for depression. Every psychedelic trip I have had for the past 5 years always resulted in catharsis and lots of crying. I was drawn to psychedelics because they have allowed me to access emotions and feelings that I have never been able to reliably access sober.
I was drawn to psychedelics because they have allowed me to access emotions and feelings that I have never been able to reliably access sober.
I am at almost exactly 6 weeks on 300mg Bupropion. That is almost exactly the time frame needed for the half-life to stabilize. I can’t say too much on this yet, but I believe that Bupropion did play a significant part in the joyous and euphoric effects that I experienced during my trip.
These tabs are very old. I kind of assumed (I shouldn’t have, this was dumb), that they would have lost a good bit of potency, so I wasn’t too hesitant to take 3mg. In hindsight, this was not the wisest decision, and it is not one of my proudest moments when I preach harm reduction and responsible drug use.
The following half of this report is my, mostly, unedited notes I took during:
00:00 (7:20pm): 3mg under tongue
00:20: Already feeling effects at 740. Metallic taste. Not pleasant but not as bad as I thought it would be. Realize I have never taken a 25x-NBOx before because I have never had bitter tabs like this.
00:23: Coming up quickly at 743
The following notes occurred between 00:25 (745pm) and 01:40 (9pm):
Hungry. Should have eaten more beforehand maybe. Unsure what to do with myself. Really euphoric. It’s got that mind melting feeling I get on 2C-B. Go inside. Upstairs. Hard to really think about much. Hot and cold flashes. Unbelievable orgasms holy shit. So erotic. Has a strange strobing effect I haven’t felt on anything else before. Hot and cold still.
01:40: 9pm still peaking
01:50: Can eat mac and cheese and feel much better once I do
01:55: Peak is over, I think. Visuals were intense +++ for a while. Now it’s very manageable. Some annoying body temperature regulation issues that I’m not a fan of. 1mg Etiz at 930pm just to hopefully help with jaw clenching and a slight headache that’s building. Quick and intense trip. It left just as fast as it came. Some really immersive visuals at the peak. Beautiful CEV. I didn’t notice OEV but I never really do or pay attention to them because that’s not what I am most interested in.
04:00-06:00 (?) (not sure exactly): Did 150mg ketamine. Love it. I want more but I don’t want to use too much. It's such an experience to be savored (and it’s not cheap with my tolerance). Such an expensive drug but for good reason.
08:20: .5mg Etizolam at 340am
11:25: Writing this at 645am. Weed all night which didn’t add much. 4-5 beers from 2am - 530am. Not tired at all. Nearly 12 hours later. I’m sure if I took Flualprazolam or something more sedating earlier it would have knocked me out. I was just having a really good night and didn’t want to force it. Need to sleep though.
That’s the end of the live notes. I slept easily once I went upstairs and turned off the lights. I woke up naturally only 4 hours later. This is unheard of for me. For the past 2 years I have been sleeping an average of 12 hours a night. Only recently has Bupropion helped with this. I felt rested and had the first true psychedelic afterglow I have experienced in my life. I do not think I am exaggerating either. I am writing this 2 days later, and I have had the 2 most productive, and just plain fun, days of the year!
Timeline
00:20: First notes
00:40: Slightly uncomfortable come-up, lots of energy, had the feeling of not knowing what to do with myself.
00:50 - 02:00: Peak
02:00 - 03:00: Plateau. Able to eat food. Headspace becomes much more clear and analytical.
03:00- 06:00: Visuals completely gone at this point. Psychedelic thoughts and realizations are had. Conversation is effortless.
06:00 - 11:00: Residual stimulation and lingering headspace. Very pleasant still. Super social
Retrospective Summary:
What a fun drug! Extremely euphoric. Inherently sexual and erotic. More so than 2C-B and that is saying something... The peak hit hard and fast. The first two hours were a whirlwind. Beautiful visuals. The peak felt like I got shot into another realm with the beautiful display of visuals. It was fast, intense, and profound. It calmed down quickly around hour 3. I spent the peak with a lot of physical stimulation. I did have a few concerns about my body temperature a few times
I did have a few concerns about my body temperature a few times
CEV were much more prominent than OEV. Then again, I am almost always lying (in this case sitting) in the dark during peak psychedelic experiences. I am one of those lie in bed with eye mask people. Once the peak was over I was left in a nice stimulated, very talkative, headspace for the next 8 hours.
There was no rough crash or headache near the tail end of the experience like I have gotten on 2c-b every single time I’ve tried it. There was a small headache developing, but a little Etizolam, some marijuana, and a few beers kept that at bay. I would compare it most to 2C-B more than 2C-D. It has a very similar level of physical, and especially mental, euphoria. The visuals were not as colorful as 2C-B, but they were just as complex. The experience did feel a little “faster” if you know what I mean by that. I will say that subjectively 2C-B feels a little harsher on the body and mind. It usually leaves me feeling drained and weak when the peak is over. 25B kept me in a positive and enjoyable headspace.
Visually, I would love to push the dose a little higher to see just how vivid and complex the visuals can get, but I would worry about the physical side effects above 3mg. I never actually felt physically in danger or unsafe at any point, but it is a side effect I have not gotten on other psychedelics. Mentally there was no concern, the physical side effects weren’t unmanageable, but I could see how they could be once the dose gets higher. For this reason, I don’t see myself using more than 2-3mg in the future, and I recommend anyone reading to follow that guideline as well. I also recommend starting lower than 3mg. 1-2mg should be plenty for a first time. I am happy with the dose I chose and I do not regret it, but I can not consciously recommend anyone else follow in my footsteps.
All in all, this is a wonderful compound that I am happy to have in my arsenal. I do not see myself using this more than once or twice a year, max, due to the unknown safety concerns. I see the most potential as a drug for intimacy with a loved partner. I will be stashing away a few dozen of these for that purpose.
I feel the same way about 2C-B. I do not enjoy it for solo trips anymore because it has felt hedonistic and shallow, while leaving me in a depressed and negative mindset. I have a theory that my five 2C-B trips in the past 3 years have all felt this way because I have been clinically depressed this whole time. I always felt wonderful physical euphoria from 2C-B, but it felt unnatural to feel so good when I was so low and unhappy. It just felt hedonistic and put me in a poor headspace. 2C-B never provided the introspection I have come to adore from 4-aco-dmt, DMT, LSD, 4-ho-mipt, etc.
25B-NBOH seems less likely to cause these unwanted feelings and effects. I believe it is more likely I had an enjoyable, fun, and mentally euphoric trip because my baseline mood is completely turned upside down compared to the previous years. Time will tell.
Thanks for reading :)
Exp Year: 2022 | ExpID: 116395 |
Gender: Male | |
Age at time of experience: 24 | |
Published: Jun 14, 2022 | Views: 1,671 |
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