A More Antidepressant 5-MAPB Alternative
5-Chloro-AMT, 5-MAPB & DCK
Citation:   At0micFury. "A More Antidepressant 5-MAPB Alternative: An Experience with 5-Chloro-AMT, 5-MAPB & DCK (exp116774)". Erowid.org. Nov 13, 2022. erowid.org/exp/116774

 
DOSE:
T+ 0:00
30 mg oral 5-Chloro-AMT  
  T+ 0:00 2 capsls oral Ginger (extract)
  T+ 3:00 5 mg insufflated 5-Chloro-AMT  
  T+ 3:30 5 mg insufflated 5-Chloro-AMT  
  T+ 4:30 10 mg insufflated 5-MAPB  
  T+ 5:10 10 mg oral Pharms - Propranolol  
  T+ 7:15 30 mg oral Deschloroketamine (capsule)
  T+ 10:45   oral Vitamins / Supplements  
  T+ 10:45 25 mg oral Pharms - Trazodone  
BODY WEIGHT: 135 lb
5-Cl-aMT is a very obscure rc that only has a handful of trip reports. It痴 similar to aMT except it has much stronger MAO-A inhibition and effects norepinephrine less. It also acts as a full agonist at 5-HT2a instead of a partial agonist. Despite this, however, the other trip reports suggest that it has very minimal psychedelic activity.

T+0:00: Ingested 30mg 5-Cl-aMT.

T+0:35: I知 starting to feel physically much warmer and I知 beginning to feel a little more stimulated and awake, but otherwise I don稚 feel much.

T+1:00 I知 feeling a slight mood uplift and a little bit of slight pleasurable body tingles, but I知 still not feeling that much.

T+1:14: I知 starting to feel a slightly sedating and relaxing feeling sort of similar to 5-MAPB. My body temperature is also increasing. No noticeable nausea so far, but I took 2 ginger extract capsules before the 5-Cl-aMT.

T+1:30: I知 feeling a little bit more energetic and euphoric. No noticeable visuals so far.

T+1:45: Jaw shivering has become apparent, but it is nowhere near as strong as MDMA or 5-MAPB. Threshold level visuals have become visible.

T+3:00: The effects only increased by a small amount. It feels sorta similar to a low dose of 5-MAPB, but is very weak. There is quite noticeable couch lock, but the jaw shivering has actually decreased and there is no nystagmus. The psychedelic effects are perhaps slightly stronger but still near threshold. Previous trip reports indicate that the peak should happen around 3 hours so I知 going to snort 5mg to see if things pick up.

T+3:30: Snorting increased the effects noticeably, but not by much. It was about as painful as a similar dose of 5-MeO-MALT, maybe a little more painful. I知 going to snort an additional 5mg.

T+3:50: Snorting certainly increased the psychedelic effects, but it didn't seem to impact the rolly aspect. The visuals are still weaker than even a low dose of shrooms, however.

T+4:30: The effects are still very underwhelming, but snorting this substance hurts too much to bother taking anymore.
T+4:30: The effects are still very underwhelming, but snorting this substance hurts too much to bother taking anymore.
I will just need to try a larger initial dose next time. I知 going to try snorting a low dose of 5-MAPB to try and salvage this roll. Considering that 5-Cl-aMT is a somewhat potent MAOI, I have a shot of 500mcg of BPC-157 on standby in case of serotonin syndrome.

T+5:10: The 10mg 5-MAPB seemed to slightly increase jaw shivering and heart rate. I have taken 10mg of propranolol. Considering snorting another 10mg of 5-MAPB and calling it a night, at this point my serotonin is starting to get depleted.

T+6:36: The 5-MAPB certainly salvaged the roll, although the experience was still weaker than 5-MAPB by itself. The psychedelic effects are slightly stronger, most likely potentiated by the 5-MAPB. They are still relatively weak, however.

T+7:15: The visuals seem to be coming down now. I took a capsule containing 30mg of DCK.

T+8:15: The DCK seems to have potentiated the visuals a bit and made the comedown more manageable.

T+10:45: The effects are still going, but I知 getting tired. I知 going to take NAC, VITC, BPC-157, and 25mg of Trazodone to kill the experience and protect against neurotoxicity.

T+11:45: Going to bed.

T+20:30: Just woke up. I still feel the effects slightly but they've mostly died down. I feel slightly depressed and exhausted and I have some slight memory impairment, similar to after a 5-MAPB roll.

T+21:50: I took 400mg of 5-HTP and EGCG with no issues.

T+23:41: Surprisingly, I still have very slight but noticeable visuals, and my pupils are still dilated. This is certainly a long lasting compound.

T+24:30: The slight depressed feeling has changed into a pretty good afterglow. The visuals have also died down to the point where they are indistinguishable from my typical HPPD.

T+26:37: Surprisingly my nose isn稚 completely clogged after snorting the painful 5-Cl-aMT and 5-MAPB. Typically snorting a measly 5-10mg of 5-MeO-MALT is enough to completely fuck my nose for multiple days even with saline spray, and that stuff hurt less than this substance.

T+31:50: My pupils are still pretty dilated, but otherwise the effects have almost entirely worn off.

T+45:55: I still have a slight afterglow, but not as strong as yesterday. My pupils are no longer dilated.

Overall, while this experience was kinda disappointing, this substance certainly shows some promise. 5-MAPB by itself was actually a lot more psychedelic than this substance; however, 5-MAPB tends to produce more delirious hallucinations, while the 5-Cl-aMT just produced shroom-like visuals. At higher dosage, I would consider this more desirable than 5-MAPB because I really dislike the delirium, even though it's relatively mild.

This substance also seems to produce an antidepressant effect afterwards rather than the shitty depressive feeling that MDMA, and to a lesser extent, 5-MAPB provides. This could be due to the fact that overall much less serotonin was released during this experience compared to my typical 100-120mg 5-MAPB experiences.

Exp Year: 2022ExpID: 116774
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 19
Published: Nov 13, 2022Views: 1,001
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