DOSE:

3 - 11 mg

oral

2'-Oxo-PCE

BODY WEIGHT:

60 kg

An Interesting Ketamine's Kinsman

I am a 23 year old boy.

Approximate weight of 60 kg (although the reported doses are quite separated in time, I deduce that my weight does not vary significantly to notice noticeable changes in these experiences.

These intakes took place in 2024, my experience with substances is quite extensive and frequent, alternating between them to avoid crossing tolerances, this case was no exception, the shortest time between intakes of O-PCE and some other dissociative, were, at least, 14 days before taking O-PCE.

January 21 (3 mg oral)

This intake was more of a test dose to see the potency and reaction of my body, since it was the first time I had consumed it and it was one of the few substances that I did not analyze.

Low tolerance, 14 days before I took a different dissociative.

I don't remember the exact time, but around 3:00 p.m. m., I can't comment much on the effect itself, because I had had a few beers and smoked some cannabis, so I can't really identify what the dissociative effects are on their own, but I didn't feel bad.

I lay listening to music in bed, clearly feeling very mild dissociative effects, which would be enhanced or at least altered or different by the beer and cannabis, it was quite subtle and mild overall, although, probably due to the combination I didn't feel as much “cleansing” as in the next two doses.

April 5 (5 mg oral)

On this occasion I cannot give many details either, it was a Friday afternoon, tolerance is also low for dissociatives, the day before I had drunk two beers and some doses of cocaine, I was not fully rested but I had slept remarkably. I met a friend at my house and we both took it, weight and height similar to mine, 27 year old male, I didn't write down the hours either.

It was around 8:00 p.m., I swallowed 5 mg and he snorted it, he also smoked cannabis, it suited us both very well, he had never tried any dissociative before.

An hour later, I remember feeling a slight pain in my heart, this being the only time I felt this, maybe, and just maybe, the cocaine from the day before had something to do with it.

We tried to download some plug-ins for music production software, which we didn't even manage to get during the peak, once he went home, around 11:00 p.m., with the effects already decreasing, I managed to download it in a matter of a few minutes, note the dissociative clumsiness here.

The next day we both noticed great energy and increased mood while we worked.

July 17 (8 mg oral)

On this occasion the intake was right after leaving the gym, on the way home, a very sunny day and pleasant weather, the last meal was at least 2 hours ago.

Low tolerance to dissociative drugs, in the previous 4 days there was consumption of 2 beers and 2 medium doses of GHB.

Of the 4 intakes, it was the one I enjoyed the most by far.

16:55 - I swallow a bomblet of rolling paper with the 8 mg, 5 minutes later I begin to notice how it opens in my stomach.

17:15 - First noticeable dissociative and dull sensations, I continue walking on the way home and stop to sit leaning on a tree, a few minutes later the distances, textures and sizes begin to alter, very similar to ketamine but with more lucidity mental and more motivation (not ease), to carry out activities that require movement (this is why it seems more dangerous to me than the classic substance, it can motivate you to do more movement activities such as walking, riding a bike, etc., with more impetus than the ketamine, but with the same clumsiness and difficulty in muscle coordination, be careful with this).

17:20 - Mischievous thoughts arrive, such as looking into gardens to see who is inside and what they are doing, etc. (of course, they remained thoughts).

Noticeable increase in disorientation on the way home.

17:25 - Possible beginning of the peak, I feel a sudden urge to go to the bathroom and I rush to get home, but I cannot increase the speed due to clumsiness and difficulty in balance (note that this should not be exaggerated, the walk and walking had no difficulty at all, and I enjoyed it a lot, but running or walking quickly didn't seem like a good idea to me).

Beginning of the typical ketamine “robotic” sensation when I walk, distortion of gravity, etc., along the way I am practically discussing the experience with friends using my mobile phone.

17:45 - I meet a couple on the way, the conversation and sociability are somewhat forced and not very fluid. After that, I arrive at the park near my house and begin to meditate leaning on another tree.

18:07 - End of the meditation, during it I began to see figures, the one I remember best is a co-worker, with something similar to spatulas instead of his legs, with the soles of his feet facing up and the head down, moving the limbs from front to back.
Furthermore, when I tried to focus on breathing, it felt as if all the air from the park was entering my lungs, and when I exhaled, it returned to its place.

And, a not too strong sensation similar to a vibration, especially ran through my neck and head, while feet and legs were absorbed towards the lower left corner of the imaginary cube in which I felt that I was meditating, with my eyes closed, the space around me became I felt like a giant cube, this usually happens to me with dissociatives .

18:20 - Possible end of traditional dissociative peak and beginning of residual stimulant effects, lasting until after midnight, with a short period of insomnia.

This time I also felt greater energy and euphoria the day after consumption, a possible placebo effect.

October 23 (11 mg oral).

The last and best informed dose of all that I had of O-PCE, a Wednesday off, I don't return to work until Friday, I went to the gym and the day before I did a lot of errands and tasks to have today free, I had an avocado and some pre-workout cereal for breakfast without eating anything else until the time of the O-PCE, except for a small supermarket snack to quell my hunger after the exercise, at 11:45.

At this moment my tolerance to dissociatives I would say is very low since the last time I took it was 10 days ago, and the time before that; more than 1 month.

The day before I took a modern benzodiazepine, which we will discuss later the importance of this substance in terms of the experience with O-PCE.

12:45 - I swallow 11 mg of O-PCE (my last dose) in a vegan gelatin capsule with a couple of shots of soy drink, and then I start listening to music and chatting with some friends.

13:10 - Slight initial sensation of relaxation and a certain slowness, which could perfectly be a placebo

Subsection: here I begin to think that the intake was not O-PCE, but MXP, why? Because 10 days before I had a very average experience with MXP (which I will tell in another report), reaching the point of wanting to get rid of all the dissociatives I had (these two) while I was under its effect, throwing them into the trash can in my room.

The next day I regretted throwing away the O-PCE since I never had bad or unpleasant experiences with it, so I wanted to try to recover something if it was still possible, recognizing a pebble that had fallen intact on a smooth cardboard inside the trash can, I remembered that It weighed 11 mg, and that's exactly what it weighed (or I took another one that weighed the same), why am I telling this? because in the bin there was also MXP, much more than O-PCE, although they were visually somewhat differentiable, but for this reason, I began to believe that the dose I recovered was MXP and not O-PCE, since more than half an hour had passed without noticing hardly anything (I do not recommend being impatient, or recovering anything that has been thrown in the trash along with another substance, no matter how different it may be, if you make a mistake you can pay dearly), and for those who do not know, 11 mg of oral MXP is practically imperceptible, that's my doubt about whether it was one or the other.

Finally, if it was O-PCE, as I will tell you below, it would simply take longer to take effect because of the supermarket snack and/or the soy drink, or because it is still a research chemical with unknown pharmacokinetics and metabolization.

13:55 - Quite suddenly the intensity begins to increase noticeably, in a very fun and pleasant way, I then remember that I had to pick up the clean clothes and put them in the closet, which was a real adventure. In fact, in that adventure I began to miss some pajama pants that I still can't find...

14:05 And then, dear friends, this was where the peak began for me, emphatically, right when I put the clothes in the closet.

I usually listen to darkpsy while trying this kind of thing, or other strange or psychedelic music, but I decided to listen to some Spanish punk albums that I was listening to in those days, and it was great, I fell into bed quite euphoric, almost as if I were in the same life of the bands that were playing.

I must say that I closed my eyes and noticed how my legs were stretched, as if they were made of rubber, beyond the bed, while my mental state was completely flat and calm, a state of tranquility that was quite extreme.

14:25 - After 20 minutes of enjoying the music a lot, and almost a state of meditation and a gentle dissociative trip, the peak was still maintained at 80%, I would say, being quite stable.

15:00 - The intensity has decreased slightly, I still don't really want to get up, which seems strange to me, my vision is also somewhat blurred while I look at the sky through the window with relaxing music.

15:35 - Blurred vision (typical for me when I take dissociatives in certain quantities) and the effects also continue to diminish, but... I am beginning to realize that maybe (and just maybe) not all the effects that I am having have to be from the O-PCE, since I feel a very great lack of energy, I really want to stay lying down, I get up to change the music and then I need to lie down again...

The doses from previous occasions did not produce this in the decrease of the effects, they tended to be more stimulating, therefore, this is where perhaps (and only perhaps) the bromazolam that I took in the afternoon the day before becomes important .

Because? because O-PCE, in any of its doses, has given me some insomnia during the night, even taking it at noon, the residual stimulation usually lasts a long time, and yet, do you remember that I said that I took the 11 mg at 12:45? Well, at 5:00 p.m. or even before, I fell asleep for two hours, remembering that the previous time, with 8 mg at 4:00 p.m., I couldn't sleep until after 12:00 a.m., it seems a little strange, I comment on this with only one purpose, make sure of the durability of the after-effects of any substance so that they do not intervene if I take something the next day, I found very little information about bromazolam, they usually report durations no longer than 12 hours, although they can last longer of 24 as happens with some more classic benzodiazepines, and the truth is that before taking the O-PCE I felt normal, I didn't think I was still under any of its effects, but who knows if the after-effects were too mild to be felt, but not so slight as not to interact with the O-PCE…

I repeat, maybe, and just maybe, they interacted and that's why I felt that drowsiness, but keep in mind that both are substances with little studies and information, it is possible that they did not interact with each other, and it simply had a different effect that day the O-PCE for some reason that I will never know.

Be very careful with this, combinations of depressants and dissociatives can result in very enhanced and unpleasant effects, especially if we are talking about modern chemicals lacking information, it would not be a bad idea if you wait at least 24 hours between both intakes.

Conclusion/summary

I find it a quite fun and interesting dissociative, especially because of the residual effects, if I take it in the morning or around midday, it does not interfere with my sleeping hours, and the next day I feel incredibly well, although be very careful with combining these residual effects from subsequent days with some other substance can be unpredictable and the reason why several people report these long-lasting after-effects is still unknown.

Exp Year: 2024	ExpID: 118481
Gender: Male
Age at time of experience: 23
Published: Nov 20, 2024	Views: 15
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