I'm Not Going to Touch This Again Anytime Soon
7-Hydroxymitragynine
Citation: Paruzia. "I'm Not Going to Touch This Again Anytime Soon: An Experience with 7-Hydroxymitragynine (exp118773)". Erowid.org. Aug 22, 2025. erowid.org/exp/118773
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3.75 mg | oral | 7-Hydroxymitragynine | (pill / tablet) |
0:00 The pill weighs 760mg and claims to contain 15mg of 7oh, making for 0.0197mg/mg. It's worth noting that I've heard that this brand is unreliable (I just grabbed the first one I saw because the guy at the store was staring at me and I felt self conscious) and typically contains between 10-50% less 7oh than it claims to, though I couldn't say how much less it actually was for this specific pill. You're supposed to take half the pill, but I decided to err on the side of caution, cutting the pill into 4 pieces and swallowing a little under a quarter, which weighed 174mg, which should be about 3.4883mg of 7oh assuming the packaging is telling the truth. I also licked up a small amount of powder that had spilled while I was cutting the pill
0:05 I'm feeling a little weird but it's likely just anxiety. I already had a pretty good idea of how this whole thing would play out going in, but I tried it anyway. I don't think anything would have stopped me. The thirst to experience it, to learn what it's like, was too strong to contain. Maybe I'm an idiot
0:15 I'm starting to feel some euphoria and relaxation
My dick feels kinda weird for some reason; almost like I'm getting hard, but I'm clearly not
0:30 I'm definitely experiencing euphoria; there's a permanant smile on my face. My pain is still present but definitely dulled; walking is way more bearable than normal. Things seem almost like they feel softer and more comfy than normal. I can still piss; it might be a little trickier than normal but I cant really tell
My mouth is a little uncomfortable from smiling so much
I keep giggling to myself
I had some ice cream and I swear it's softer in my mouth than normal
It doesn't even feel like I'm on drugs. It feels completely normal and natural, except I'm happy, and everything is more comfortable and relaxing
0:57 Wearing my glasses isn't as uncomfortable as normal
1:07 I'm trying to play Project Sekai; messing up my combo bothers me both more and less than usual; I feel a little more bothered (likely because opioids can cause irritability), but then I remember that I'm super happy so it doesn't matter and I feel better
It's way too hot in here
1:11 My neck started to hurt a little bit, but not much (normally it's basically always in pain); this pain feels different than normal
1:12 I keep losing my train of thought and just kind of laying there smiling like a dumbass, perfectly content and unbothered
I start to feel a bit of minor itchiness on various parts of my body, which is another expected side effect of opioids
1:19 I feel so much happier than I ever have in my entire life. The world's biggest smile has not left my face. I cannot fucking believe that this shit is sold at fucking gas stations
It feels great for now, but I'm worried about how I'll feel when it wears off. I definitely don't think anyone should be taking this shit, because I already know I'm gonna miss it like hell
I'm laughing more and harder at things than normal
1:29 My left hand is kinda falling asleep. Probably unrelated?
1:54 The pain mitigation seems to be losing effectiveness; it's back to hurting a lot to walk, although not as much as it did before
I tried laying in bed and it definitely felt softer than it normally does
2:09 I didn't know it was possible to feel this happy
4:30 The start of an hour-long argument with someone that I don't even like. I should have realized that I don't want to have this discussion and disengaged, but opioid irritability resulted in me getting annoyed enough to argue with them for a while. I still feel euphoric, but it definitely dampened the pleasure of the high, and made me feel badly about my level of self-control. In the end, I was able to apologize for my poor conduct (not that theirs was any better), say a few things to try to calm them down, and gracefully exit the situation
5:46 Goddd I'm still so fucking happy I can't stop smiling this shit is crazy
6:51 I still feel so so so incredibly happy and euphoric and giddy and comfy but I am getting increasingly nervous about what will happen to me once it wears off
7:02 Walking seems like it's back to hurting almost as much as it did before I took the 7oh. It's still numbed a little, but somehow it bothers me more, as if I got too used to it being dulled
7:32 My hand is kinda sore from holding my phone for so long. I wonder if it should have been sore long ago
7:46 The wrist pain from holding my phone is so fucking bad wtf. Idk if this is my pain tolerance being gone due to getting some pain relief earlier
The wrist pain from holding my phone is so fucking bad wtf. Idk if this is my pain tolerance being gone due to getting some pain relief earlier
8:44 I am shocked I'm still feeling so euphoric. It's definitely not as much as before, but its still substantial
9:00 I'm told that my heart is beating really fast
9:04 I end up in a situation where I should be upset, but I still feel happy at the same time. These emotions coexisting is so uncanny. I'm glad that I got to experience it, since it's a very different experience from anything I've had before, but I don't like it. It feels so wrong
9:13 It's definitely a bit harder to pee than normal
9:22 I'm going to sleep now. By the time I wake up, I will probably be back to normal. By sleeping through it wearing off, I'm hoping that going back to normal won't bother me as much as it otherwise would
To be perfectly honest, I'm scared. I have felt the most incredible happiness I could ever imagine. How am I going to go back to a normal life after this?
9:55 My back and neck hurt like hell what the fuck??? It's not normally this bad. Did I really get so used to going without pain after such a short time?
I fell asleep shortly after this
And, if this were a normal trip report, that's where this would end. But I would be doing you a terrible disservice if I didn't continue and explain how I felt the next day, after it had worn off
16:21 I wake up and feel normal and immediately start thinking about how I want more
I just want to be happy again
I'm not going to take more, obviously, since that would be a horrible idea
I wonder how long I'll feel this way. Maybe forever. Just how good it feels isn't something I can see myself forgetting anytime soon
17:07 What's even the point of being alive if I can't be happy like that all the time
17:10 Even my genuine feelings of happiness feel wrong, like I'm paranoid that they're fake too
20:21 I had some ice cream and it wasnt nearly as soft or good feeling as when I was on 7oh
I'm not experiencing withdrawals or anything like that. I feel completely normal, like I never even took anything, but I don't want to feel normal, I want to feel happy. And I can't shake the knowledge that I *could* feel happy
20:55 I feel so normal, but "normal" seems a lot worse than it used to by comparison
26:33 I'm overcome with severe bad feelings that I won't elaborate on. I don't think it's because of the 7oh, it's just because my life sucks. But it certainly isn't helping that I feel incredibly guilty for taking it, or that I know full well that I would feel so much better if I succumbed and took more
27:20 I got home from an 8 hour car ride and immediately broke down crying. The load of so many horrible things that I'd rather not get into having happened to me recently, combined with feeling worthless and like I dont belong and like no one truly cares about me and like I'll never accomplish anything and like I've fucked up my life beyond repair led to me attempting to cut myself for the first time in 8 months (the knife was too dull to break my skin, and after a few seconds I realized I was being stupid and stopped)
Conclusion: ...This isn't even about drugs anymore, is it? It's just about the trainwreck that is my life
But throughout it all, I can hear a whispering, nagging voice in the back of my head that wasn't there before. "You could be so happy right now. You could feel amazing. Why don't you want to be happy?"
I'm not going to take more, because I know that that would be a horrible idea. But it's difficult to ignore the fact that, if I did, it would make me happy like nothing else could. I don't know if that thought will ever go away
For 10 hours, I felt more happiness and well-being and desire to live each and every second than I had felt over the course of my entire life until then. I can't ever forget that
It's impossible to explain in words just how amazing it made me feel and how much I remember that feeling when it's gone.
My third eye has been opened to a world that I couldn't see before, and nothing I do lets me look away
And this horrible feeling isn't caused by addiction, crash, withdrawal, or anything of the sort. It comes entirely from within myself, solely from knowing how good it feels
It's so fucked up that humanity has invented a button you can press that makes all of your bad feelings go away and replaces them with more good feelings than you could ever possibly experience otherwise, but youre not supposed to press the button, and the button gets mad at you if you press it, and also if you don't press it. Genuinely some torment nexus type shit
It's an unnatural kind of happiness. It makes you feel better than anything "real" could because it isnt real, it's manufactured. In the moment, it feels better, but after it's gone, looking back on it will just make you sad. Whereas real happiness should feel good when you look back on it after it's gone
The funniest part is, I don't even regret it (not yet anyway...), because it was a new experience. I'd rather have a terrible experience that I've never had before than a pleasant experience that I already know, because the former is new. And I know that it was inevitable anyway; nothing anyone said to me short of me going back in a time machine to warn my past self would have stopped me from doing it. If it had to happen eventually, now was as good a time for it to happen as any, probably
I'm not going to touch this again anytime soon.
| Exp Year: 2025 | ExpID: 118773 |
| Gender: Not Specified | |
| Age at time of experience: Not Given | |
| Published: Aug 22, 2025 | Views: Not Supported |
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