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A Proper Session
DMT & Sage
Citation:   SpikeKO. "A Proper Session: An Experience with DMT & Sage (exp119149)". Erowid.org. Sep 14, 2025. erowid.org/exp/119149

 
DOSE:
  vaporized DMT
    smoked Salvia apiana
BODY WEIGHT: 132 lb
First Time Experience

As the title proclaims a first time experience; there was a precedent attempt that did not avail in 2014-15, DMT mixed with cannabis. I do recall dropping four tabs of a research chemical at once, and it was a bad come up, I called a friend and who suggested music which helped the mood greatly. It was a feeling of helplessness and loneliness that amplified this impending anxiety of a bad come up. Music helped, I had a blunt, and then some friends called me up and picked me up to hang out. I finished what I had of the DMT there in a bowl, and to no avail again -I did see the stars though, and a purple beam shot out from one star, connecting to others, shaping a purple pentagram -quickly a friend put me on his shoulders and spun me around and I began to hear a music that was not there as I got spun.

Eventually a few years later, I had the opportunity to have had a proper DMT session, an I had been taking at least a three month break from all substances at this time. Upon arrival, my setting was in a room, with a blanket and pillow on the floor. My guide prepared a bong with sage, as well as the DMT.
Upon arrival, my setting was in a room, with a blanket and pillow on the floor. My guide prepared a bong with sage, as well as the DMT.


I cannot remember if I took more than one pull, but upon exhaling: I immediately blew the smoke and it was as if the smoke formed into a geometric web that was in front of me. A feeling compelled my body to lay down, and in my side vision, I saw my guide sitting there, but it seemed as if the whole setting changed: I was now in what my mind interpreted as some type of archaic place, and I was a body on a little raft in a pond, and this angelic, guide like being was just watching over me but making these hand gestures and movements, like the sight of the guide in my side eye produced this mental image so clear but my eyes were still open, because when I then closed my eyes - the trip took me in.

From it felt like my mind was travelling and moving in multiple directions/dimensions -front, forward, up, down, sides, zig zags - constant shift, and there were many images that I had no will in producing, but others that I did have a will in. A part of me did not want to let go of myself, and I recall being able to react and judge, regarding my images and thoughts, so there was still "ego" logically speaking. The details in visual description are few to what stuck out, but the way my mind was moving around was frequent from the beginning to the end.

My body was spazzing through the experience, and there were times when I realized that one could vomit, or even poop themselves as a reaction to this experience, so be sure to be clear of that before you go in. It reminded me of my father in his death bed.

There was a vision that kind of scared me: I envisioned myself at work = at a gas station at the time, working the night shift -and I'm inside operating through a window between me and the customer. I see myself waving my hand to say goodnight to these customers, but then my vision shifted to the image of Richard Ramirez, the Nightstalker, in court with has hang up with that pentagram on his hand. I'm sort of tying the very first experience to this just now, but anyhow - the sight shocked me and frightened me, I didn't know how to interpret it, but in my own will and judgement, I reminded myself that this individual was caught by the neighborhood in the end, and that his acts of terror did come to justice. So I tried telling myself, that no matter what evil may occur, there will be a goodness to resolve and serve justice so to speak.

I'm a musician, and the 7th chord is the diminished chord, previously known as the devil's chord, and it is meant to resolve to the tonic, the 1 chord. This was the type of thinking I had, and as I realized this, that the good will always overcome the bad, my guide began to use a rain stick that made this stream like sound. My eyes are totally closed and it was when I focused that good overcomes, the stream-like sound began, and I referred to it as a stream of clarity.

I did envision myself holding an acquaintance along a desert, and this is somebody who I wouldn't really associate myself with willingly.

Towards the end of the trip, I recall being "indoors" and my mental vision could only see directly in front, but it felt like I was on an automatic treadmill track, shifting my view side to side, backwards, forwards, but with the direction held in view. There was a black and white checkered floor, and there were these colorful wires about, and I recall seeing a silhouette more or less, of a figure with long hair, similar to those colorful wires, and my waking memory associated that figure with the symbol of Native American figure Kokopeli.

It was a strange, and intense experience. It reinforced my belief that there are good forces, and bad forces, and that no matter what, the good will always dominate.
It reinforced my belief that there are good forces, and bad forces, and that no matter what, the good will always dominate.


Later that evening, I had a nap before my shift at work, and I dreamt of a Mayan like pyramid -blood spewing down from the top to the bottom, and at the top were two male figures, conversing with one another about me coming up or not coming up. They gave me the impression that they knew it was an error for me to be there.

I did eventually have another dream of being in a house filled with multiple people hiding about -they kept telling me "hide with us! hide with us!" and I guess it was too late because I saw what appeared to be a demonic dog like creature that said in a malicious, growling tone/voice: "I will show you the love of God/Christ" something like that, it scurried over to me, but then I woke up in panic, sweat, and I straight up felt like a cat with its tails and hairs on end. I did find a painting of girl holding a crazy looking dog and that's honestly pretty similar to what I saw in the dream. I haven't dreams like that since to be honest.

Exp Year: 2019ExpID: 119149
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 24
Published: Sep 14, 2025Views: Not Supported
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