Hypnagogia Was Not Worth the Comeup
MMDA
Citation: hermit. "Hypnagogia Was Not Worth the Comeup: An Experience with MMDA (exp119729)". Erowid.org. May 15, 2026. erowid.org/exp/119729
| DOSE: T+ 0:00 |
190 mg | oral | MMDA | (gel tab) |
| T+ 2:50 | 4 mg | Ondansetron | ||
| T+ 0:00 | oral | Cannabis | (edible / food) |
| BODY WEIGHT: | 55 kg |
I began feeling the comeup in about 30 minutes — an anxious and tense feeling, something like coming up on MDMA, but it seemed to last much longer. At 1h15m, I noticed intense jaw-clenching, and some nausea. At 1h45m, I began to notice distinct dream-like, hypnagogic feelings, and felt that the effects of the drug had come on, but that the anxiety and tenseness of the comeup was still there. At 2h50m, I took 4mg oral ondansetron, since I was still feeling nauseous, and it did seem to help. In the future, I would just take the ondansetron at the same time as the MMDA.
At this point, I thought I had probably taken slightly too high a dose, and my partner thought they had probably taken too low a dose, despite us having taken the same dose and experiencing very similar effects. I'm still not sure which of us was right (or perhaps the dose was actually ideal, and this is simply what the comeup is like).
During the first hour or two, there was a very slight empathogenic feeling, but not nearly as intense as MDMA, and I found that speaking about it (or speaking at all) did not come easily.
At 2h20m, we decided to go for a walk, as lying around in bed was feeling uncomfortable and frustrating. Walking felt much more agreeable to both of us than being at home, so we walked for around an hour, to the park and back. When we got back, most of the nasty feeling from the comeup had faded, but I felt that the drug effect had faded as well (although in retrospect, that assumption was not correct). We decided to watch a few episodes of Adventure Time, and it was nice to have something to focus on — a frustrating aspect of expecting to see "brain movies" is that laying with one's eyes closed draws one's attention to the uncomfortable physical sensations, since there's nothing external to focus on.
At 4h in, in between episodes of Adventure Time, I noticed that the hypnagogic imagery was still there — I saw that I was holding a small ziplock bag with powder in it, trying to close it, but having trouble. It feels somewhat silly to record the individual things that I saw, though, since they were simply normal random hypnagogic imagery — none of it felt important, and the whole experience had a somewhat delirious quality to it, like restlessly stirring in and out of sleep when you have a fever
the whole experience had a somewhat delirious quality to it, like restlessly stirring in and out of sleep when you have a fever
We moved back to bed, and spent the next two or three hours experiencing the imagery. A tennis ball, computer screens, papers, textbooks, journals, an ornate rotating salt shaker, a skateboard wheel with a metal mesh folded over it, a drone-like view of a sprawling grid of bins of fruits and vegetables, and more. I would often only notice the images after they went away — I would open my eyes, the thing that I had been seeing would disappear, and only as it vanished would remember that I had been looking at it. Most objects were small, not very vivid, on a black background directly in front of my face. I could rotate the objects in my mind, and sometimes the objects would rotate of their own accord. My brain seemed to want to serve me a huge amount of text, but text worked the way it does in dreams — I couldn't read it, or when I could, I could only hold a single word in my head at a time, so I couldn't get any meaning from it, but just had the feeling it was nonsense. The fact that I kept seeing papers and websites that I couldn't read was very frustrating and tiring. Images would often rapidly shift from one thing to another.
I also noticed several auditory hallucinations, also hypnagogic in character — I could hear people speaking, and I could have some idea of approximately what they were saying, but the sounds they were making did not contain any actual words. I tried several times to experience taste or smell hallucinations, but couldn't — I'm not sure if that's because forcing myself to hallucinate in a particular way isn't possible, or if it's that scent and taste are not effected by the drug in the same way vision and hearing are. My partner was able to experience tactile hallucinations at points (the hallucination of rubbing a soft blanket on their skin), but I didn't.
At ~6h in, I went to the store to buy some snacks. While I was there, an ATM I saw out of the corner of my eye looked like an old lady hunched over — dreamlike imagery in real life.
I returned, and got back to looking at the imagery. At one point, my partner discovered that looking at a white wall also worked, so I gave it a try — I could indeed look at a blank wall and have moving shapes appear, which morphed into creatures (birds, fish, etc) moving about, all with the same hypnagogic quality that all the visuals had.
I found the whole experience quite tiring — there was almost no way to relax, as closing my eyes resulted in visuals that I couldn't not pay attention to, so my mental energy was constantly being drawn to something, whether I wanted it or not.
While the visuals were somewhat interesting from a pharmacological perspective (how does a drug trigger a dream-like state, and why is it so unique to this drug?), I still didn't feel like the experience was all that worthwhile, except just for the sake of knowing what it was like. I would say that the experience was mostly unpleasant, but I'm still glad to have done it, and I may give it another try in the future, now that I know what to expect. I do think that MMDA could be a very useful tool for practicing lucid dreaming, for those interested in such things — the feeling of controlling the hallucinations is quite similar to the feeling of controlling (or trying to control) a lucid dream.
By nighttime, I was still having somewhat restless dreamlike experiences, which made it quite difficult to fall asleep. I had a 5mg THC / 5mg GBG gummy to help me fall asleep — I'm not really sure if it helped that much, as getting to sleep remained difficult, but I did eventually manage it.
The next morning, I noticed some residual hypnagogic-type imagery, which did feel somewhat like it was still drug-induced, although it's hard to be sure. I would say that I was only confident that the drug effect had completely and entirely worn off after ~36h, and I actually continued to notice more hypnagogia than usual for me when falling asleep for ~72h after taking the drug, I suspect more because I had practiced noticing it than because it was happening more than usual, although I recognize that distinguishing those is not simple.
| Exp Year: 2026 | ExpID: 119729 |
| Gender: Not Specified | |
| Age at time of experience: 27 | |
| Published: May 15, 2026 | Views: Not Supported |
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