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So Far...Uncomfortable and Unrewarding
Citation:   Morninggloryseed. "So Far...Uncomfortable and Unrewarding: An Experience with 4-Acetoxy-DET (exp12553)". Feb 12, 2002.

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T+ 0:00
16 mg oral 4-AcO-DET (freebase)
  T+ 0:25   smoked Cannabis (plant material)
  T+ 1:30   smoked Cannabis (plant material)
1/25/02 11:31 PM

I ingest 16 mg of 4-AcO-DET freebase on an empty stomach. My principal reason is to assay the potency of this sample (it is older and a bit brown), and examine the effects of this material orally. Both of my prior exposures to it were by smoking, and I found the results rather unpleasant and unrewarding.

11:46 PM

I do believe I have some sort of alert. I feel a bit light headed and warm.

11:58 PM

I still canít quite define the changes occurring in me. There is some minor visual activity and my body feels warm and relaxed. The most noticeable effect is that I can not seem to get very far on a report of a different material I am working on. Regardless all feels good so far.

12:17 AM

Not much more is happening. For lack of a better thing to do, I log in to mIRC. I find myself analyzing what I say type to people more closely. No other mental effects. Time for some marijuana.

12:29 AM

That kicked it up a notch. I am defiantly a +1. It has been at least 4 years since I have tried psilocybin, but from what I remember this seems a bit different. Much clearer. I really like it so far.

12:34 AM

There are mild trails and strong color enhancement. A good +1 Ĺ

12:38 AM

I notice some mild anxiety that is similar to the anxiety I experience when I smoke the material. I am starting to wonder if I just donít mix well with 4-AcO-DET.

12:54 AM

I no longer seem to be climbing. I went through a lot of anxiety during the past twenty minutes or so that seemed to have no source or cause. I listened to some music but really couldnít get into it. I have a bad feeling I just somehow donít react well to this substance.

1:04 AM

Not really much more to comment on since nothing too interesting is happening. I have a typical afterglow of a mild psychedelic journey. My body feels good and alive and there is a warm, green tinge to everything. Time for some tea and another bowl.


Well not much to say about this experience. I have a bad feeling 4-AcO-DET is just not a substance I have any use for. The anxiety I experienced during the peak was rather alarming, especially considering how mild the effects really were. When it was previously smoked, I thought the anxiety was simply related to how quickly the effects were manifested, and I figured taking it orally would feel very different. In fact, there really was not much of a difference at all between smoking the substance and eating it, other than the fact that I use less in a pipe. All in all, there were no real rewarding qualities for me other than very pleasurable visual effects. They were somewhat reminiscent of mild DMT visuals, yet they still had a unique look and feel to them. One thing I did not mention in my notes was that 4-AcO-DET would make a fabulous substance for erotic enhancement, at least if I could get past the initial anxiety. Once I got out of the peak, my body felt unbelievably alive and sensitive to sensations. I also had no difficulty in getting to sleep, which is usually a problem on other materials. Perhaps one more try is in order before I write this material off completely.

Exp Year: 2002ExpID: 12553
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: Not Given
Published: Feb 12, 2002Views: 20,272
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