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Quite Pleasantly Surprised
JWH-018, O-Desmethyltramadol & Cannabis
by theShaman
Citation:   theShaman. "Quite Pleasantly Surprised: An Experience with JWH-018, O-Desmethyltramadol & Cannabis (exp82603)". Erowid.org. Mar 16, 2018. erowid.org/exp/82603

 
DOSE:
85 mg oral O-Desmethyltramadol (powder / crystals)
  6 mg smoked JWH-018 (powder / crystals)
    smoked Cannabis (plant material)

BODY WEIGHT: 120 lb


T -05:00
Prior to my JWH experience, I consumed about 85mg of ()O-Desmethyltramadol. If you've ever experienced Ultram (Tramadol), you'll have a general idea of what this was like. It just seemed a lot more potent (about 4x in my opinon) and especially opoid-like. It was actually very comparable to a moderate/strong dose of Kratom in a sense. The nod was definitely present, euphoria moderate, I could actually see this being use pharaceutically. It's more practical because it's actally a metabolite of Tramadol. Anyways, wiki the stuff if so inclined.

[Erowid Note: Two samples of powder (even of the same chemical) with equivalent volumes won't necessarily weigh the same. For this reason, eyeballing is an inaccurate and potentially dangerous method of measuring, particularly for substances that are active in very small amounts. See this article on The Importance of Measured Doses.]

T +00:00
So this was my first time using any cannbinoids at all (at least to my knowledge). The JWH-018 appearred as crystalline tan/orange powder. Regardless of still clearly being inebriated of the prior drug, I continued by weighing out an approximate amount of 4-6 mg on a top-loading balance w/ pan mixed it proportionally with already pretty decent cannabis and separated into three piles.

On a side note, I don't recommend eyeing out small quantities of any chemicals whatsoever, even as simple as cannbinoids--they are very potent chemicals. But I was being lazy and have the excuse of being very experienced. Use scales that can measure 1mg whenever you can access or afford it, please!

T +00:05
I smoke the bong, it is very smooth and I detect no chemically 'plastic' aftertaste so many people have described. Almost immediately I get the typical effects of smoking a nice warm, clean bong, but something else! No paranoia or anxiety whatsoever and the effects were very sativa-like. Lots of energy and euphoria.

T +00:15
Continue to smoke bongs in this manner and realize how blitzed I have become. I lay down in bed for just a few seconds it seems, I am now asleep... I blame that on the opoid though...

T +04:00
I am awake and refreshed after some fucked up dreams. No terrible headache, just feeling pretty damn good laying here in a semi-lucid state. Although I used the JWH-018 with another chemical, it was overall worthwhile. It reminded me of the days when I first began smoking cannabis. There were more positive than negative effects, I found.

The O-Desmethyltramadol is somewhat separate from my JWH-018 reportLike I said, it is a noteworthy pharm because its -opiod activity formidably exceeds Tramadol on its own.


Peace

Exp Year: 2009ExpID: 82603
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 22 
Published: Mar 16, 2018Views: 4,683
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