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Best Thing for My Pain I Have Ever Found
Kratom & Tramadol
by Lloyd
Citation:   Lloyd. "Best Thing for My Pain I Have Ever Found: An Experience with Kratom & Tramadol (exp87045)". Erowid.org. Nov 28, 2017. erowid.org/exp/87045

50 g oral Pharms - Tramadol (daily)
  14 g oral Kratom (daily)


I am a 52 yr old male who has used and abused various drugs all my life. Due to many surgeries I have had over my lifespan I am in constant pain and have been on Ultam for over 10 yrs now. I have gone without Ultram in the past and have not enjoyed it, main reasons were that I was starting to take more and more to get the desired effects, so I stopped taking them to get my tolerance back to where I started with. I am in the process of getting off them now.

But now I have found a natural pain reliever in Kratom. What a God send it has been!! I had ordered numerous herbs and legal highs from various vendors. I had read a lot about all of them and decided to give them a try. Some did nothing for me except make me sleepy and sick to my stomach.

Then I finally tried Kratom, it was a finely ground powder. I had read how many had gotten sick on it so I took it easy on my first dose. Brought out my scales and weighed out about 6 grams. Oh Lord the taste was so bad, I gagged and thought I was going to puke. I kept it down and within about 20 minutes (took on a empty stomach) I started to feel the effects and my pain had went away better then the Ultam had done in years. I then took about 75 mg of Ultram about an hr later and the buzz was great and I did not feel sleepy but felt like working my ass off. LOL went and did yard work and cleaned the house all in one day. Have not been able to do that in a long long time.

I am now down to a 50 mg tab of Ultram per day and take 7 grams of Kratom twice a day, morning and afternoon. I am now in day 10 of using kratom and will be stopping the pills altogether in another 3 to 4 days when my script runs out.

The Kratom works great, never getting sick off it, but always energizes me and gives a great buzz with no ill effects. But I can see where this product could be a problem with me so am going to back off it to and take only when I need it. Will see how it goes. Kratom is a God send and I would rather take something natural for pain relief than pills.

Well God bless all and please be careful.

Exp Year: 2010ExpID: 87045
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 52 
Published: Nov 28, 2017Views: 5,734
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Kratom (203), Pharms - Tramadol (149) : Addiction & Habituation (10), Medical Use (47), Therapeutic Intent or Outcome (49), Combinations (3), Not Applicable (38)

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