Citation: GewaltHaber. "The Full Ride: An Experience with MDPV (exp90171)". Erowid.org. May 12, 2011. erowid.org/exp/90171
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I sought to purchase either Prolintane HCl or MDPV to experience an uncommon stimulant with my friend Drew. MethyleneDioxyPyroValerone won. Got lucky with Prolintane HCl just once, which I predict to be the next wonder designer drug that catches on as its legal worldwide and OTC in Spain. That was my first choice but it's very hard to source. Prolintane HCl has a quick rush up, steady euphoria, smooth ride throughout, enhances mental faculties and lands soft, over 2-5 hours. That's Prolintane: it's legal and it's a winner.
My buddy Drew, myself, and his GF are the actors. The GF is a unique character, booksmart yet so stupid, who decided to snort MDPV and freebase it as her first experience ever doing any recreational drug. She insisted she partake at every step of use. We did everything we could to discourage her, and Drew and I both sincerely hope she learned from this experience. She believed she could control how the drug affected her, and we both did everything possible to tell her 'The Drug Will Always Control You When It's Active In You'.
I was eating a hearty lunch just waiting for my package to arrive, it was tracked to come anytime. I knew I'd be doing a stimulant, and I'm a stimulant afficianado, so of course I know to eat a full meal aforehand. Drew and the GF also ate well before they came to my house, and we were all in a positive state of excited anticipation. Drew and I both legitimately use 10mg Promethazine tabs and 15mg Tylenol 3 tabs to ease any unpleasant feelings in the body induced by stimulants and always use Saline Spray after each snort to save our sinus'. We mitigate every negative feeling possible to maximize our experience of the substance we're ingesting. The GF inexplicably despises beneficial medicine.
The mass was perfect to the quantity ordered, 2g. My brother took his scale and his share of the powder, 500mg. With that I must note: I'm quite excellent at eyeballing powder up to a gram. All of my estimates are true to both my belief and Drews, with +- variable included. The MDPV was advertised as 97.9% pure. I took my special works out of their incognito spots and again combined some everyday items to once again be my high class paraphernalia. I haven't done a stimulant, or really any recreational drug, in over a year at this point.
Two samples of powder (even of the same chemical) with equivalent volumes won't necessarily weigh the same. For this reason, eyeballing is an inaccurate and potentially dangerous method of measuring, particularly for substances that are active in very small amounts.
See this article on The Importance of Measured Doses.]
I have more experience with stimulants than any other class of drugs, although I have abused or at least tried to abuse almost every class of drugs except antibiotics, more substances than I care to think about. Drew is of extremely strong mind, body and spirit and well rounded with different stimulants. The GF has never done a recreational drug in her life, but she insists on being treated as an absolute equal in the experience. Drew and I know we have the ability to handle any emergency so we reluctantly allow it to happen.
Our expectations of MDPV are:
We expected to quickly adapt to any tolerance buildup [We did a lot, and a small dose always got us high, no tolerance ever built up];
We expected a hard and fast unpleasent come down to be hellish for no more than 2 hours with a few hours of lingering unpleasentness afterwards, around 4-6 hours total [it's closer to 8 of just pure mental fiending felt by us both to be like spending 6 hours of freefall in a hard crash off lots of coke, a hellishness that starts immediately with the comedown, and after the first 6 hours the next 2 to 3 are where the urge to reinforce slowly diminishes to nonexistent. 6 hours of intense urge to redose is a hell of a long time. We see why most people dislike it. However, we felt very little body discomfort except when MDPV was active in stimulating effects.]
We felt some rarer side effects, things neither of us have ever experienced, for the first time with MDPV. We caused them ourselves, though. [with 60mg +- 10mg at flash point based off tin foil.]
HERE WE GO NOW:
At about 3PM My friend Drew and his GF are at my house and I eyeball out about 100mg of powder, +- 25mg on my silver coke spoon. We're excited, and I eye ball out two 15 mg lines, +-5mg and I quickly take my toot. Drew follows. His GF is our sitter till we're sure we're gonna stay alive. Just an hour or so, though, till she joins, and 36 hours till we're free basing 60mg +- 10mg off of tin foil together.
It hit me in about 30 minutes. I didn't feel any come up, I just noticed I was all of the sudden up. It was extremely pleasent, no rush like Cocaine, and I remember thinking that's great and absolutely no problem. That means I won't be chasing some elusive feeling of pleasure that can never be felt again. It affects me like Ritalin and Drew agrees with this list: hyperfocus, increased vigilance, outstanding memory recall and utilization, adept mental agility, and enhanced creative expression in very readable writing. It's excellent for studying and engaging in social bonding, for both of us.
The ability to feel a serotonergic affect in a stimulant is new to both of us. The serotonin component we felt is unique to MDPV, Ritalin doesn't have it at all, and Cocaine is too stimulating and powerful in its action to sense any singular effect. We can only describe MDPV's euphoria coupled with the serotonin quality in its entirety as: mildly empathogenic. We're amazed we can feel this part of the compound as a distinct and separate affect that coalesces into its core stimulation.
It's extremely uncommon to sense just one component of a stimulant as exerting a unique effect. Neither of us have ever felt it before, and we believe it's so peculiar in feeling that we'd remember it if we had.
I waited until over 6 hours had passed before I redosed. It was a pleasent 6 hours and the comedown from MDPV at its worst - from my first dose - was exactly like Ritalin's is at its worst, and lasted for only about 30 minutes. Child's play, that's nothing, I remember thinking. It didn't occur to me to stop, obviously. I wanted to experience different doses and different ingestions. I felt no unmanageable reinforcing component at this point. I didn't realize the comedown I felt at that point would last for 6 hours after the last dose. I only experienced it for 30 minutes because I redosed with Drew...
Our second dose comes around 9:30PM. I lay out two lines of 25mg +- 5mg and Drew and I take them. +30 minutes around 10PM we're feeling up and back on our feet and decide at this point we're going to binge and stop at 48 hours. We know that's a safe length of time to experiment. We snort another 10-15mg which was quickly cut out. His GF was coming back in soon and we didn't want her asking for more. This is the first time she's ever done any drug in her life, and she starts by snorting. Great.
Similar effects. I ride out a long period of social interaction and emotional intimacy with Drew and his GF. We talk about a threesome but it never pans out. I spend time reading academic work by Robert Greene on the internet while they have 2 hours worth of sex on my bed next to me. The drug feels like Ritalin and I love it. Because of the binge I do not have the opportunity to feel what a comedown stretched out longer than 6 hours feels like until almost 23-30 hours down the line.
At 3AM Drew and I do another 25mg+-5mg, and stay up and talk for hours alone. We revel in our interaction and exploit the empathogenic aspect we're unaccustomed to in stimulants. I forget exactly what happened during 3AM until 7AM, but I do remember using the computer.
At 7am we do more. The GF, freshly rested, joins Drew and I again. She does a lot, insisting she take as much as us, 30mg+-5mg. Drew and I are trying to find a plateau for the drug; we want to know for sure if there is a high plateau we can achieve but not surpass, where taking more just makes us feel physically fucked. If I do cocaine when I'm soaring high as a kite on it it just makes me feel like dying. Cocaine has a high point plateau, and so does Ritalin. MDPV does not, in the doses we've tried. I believe I can keep getting higher until I die from the side effects, like with Methamphetamine. We walk to the store and pick up a pack of cigarettes. The GF, looking very unsettled and pale, feigns enjoyment that's shattered when she vomits all over outside the store. I spend a lot of my morning writing while Drew and the GF do some relationship sorting. I didn't get involved. I wrote. A lot.
At 2-3PM we are sitting around and Drew suggests we try to smoke this out of a light bulb. I don't have a clear light bulb thank God and no rice kernels either. Yay. Fuck he suggests tin foil, alright, so whatever. Let's rock. I still have around 1.15 grams of the stuff at this point. I hate smoking stimulants. I've done this twice and I only know how to base because I felt like learning how to one day with a friend. I wasted a lot of product then and I think this will be ineffecient but fuck it I agree. I get the aluminum foil.
We smoked a total of around 60mg+-10mg a piece. Drew me and the GF at the same quantity. The GF wasted a third of hers, she had no clue what she was doing but she got enough so that her story becomes interesting anyway. Drew and I make great strides in efficient inhalation, but the amount was a Big Big Mistake. The girl who insisted she could handle it and showed us she was in control by sleeping the night before flaked apart in mind body and spirit. She devolves into a Pure Amphetamine Psychosis. It manifested with increasing amounts of incoherent pscyhobabble. Within an hour we dose her with 30mg, a very excessive dosage, of Perphenazine, an antipsychotic.
The girl refused benefical medicine and ended up puking again from stomach discomfort almost immediately and began flailing around violently after 10 minutes of trying to hold herself together after smoking her dose. We told her not to do it, but she insisted. Drew and I are both stimulant pros and even we were very sickly uncomfortable for the first hour after we did it. She thought she needed a hospital and wouldn't shut up about feeling like she was dying and her brain was betraying her. She became acutely psychotic, paranoid and delusional in the 15-30 min after her dose. I slipped her that 30 mg of Perphenazine and I'm sure she reconnected to reality as she passed out and slipped into unconsciousness. THANK GOD. We carried her to a bed, and HE checked in on her regularly, on my cues, of course. She's lucky I had an anti psychotic on hand, the alternative might have been a fucking hospital.
Drew and I suffered the worst stimulant side effects of our life for about an hour. The best I can do when my mask-the-feeling meds don't cover all side effects up is try to ignore them. Focus on something else. We took 20mg of Promethazine and 2 tabs of 15mg Tylenol 3's. There was nearly an hour straight of Tachycardia with elevated blood pressure. Feeling my heart pound in my chest sucks. There was the most uncomfortable and intense feelings of: tense chest and torso, coarsing and sinewy feeling along every nerve system in my body, bruxism, elevated body temperature, twitchy eyes, seeing spots, bouts of watery eyes, malaise and general unease, racing thoughts, incoherent and rambling speech and scattered thought processess, not psychotic or delusional though, but more would have put us close to it.
Free basing gave me a hell of a rush up with MDPV. It's hard, fast, and enjoyably intense, not overbearing like I found Methamphetamine to be and overwhelming like I sometimes find large first lines of Cocaine to be. Drew lives for any rush he'd have done more if he didn't know he needed to feel the effects out. We wanted to find out if it flashed off of foil, really, and simply discover if it was possible.
After an hour we're still at the highest point we've ever been on a Ritalin / Coke like stimulant. It's fucking awesome when the side effects go away, after that hour, it's pure speed, stronger than ritalin's euphoria, a lackadaisical social ease that made me feel like interacting with sober people, our heads were back on right and our minds were sharp as a tack in every enjoyable way. We became lucid and communicative again, and decide to go for a short walk through a woods in the area. His GF was alive and sleeping fine for over an hour now, overdosed but not lethal.
The crash from smoking it for both of us was no different than the crash from snorting it. I'd never orally ingest MDPV, though, that according to all of our experiences, would probably prolong an 8 hour craving. It's unfortunately not possible to mitigate or diminish the intense first 6 hour long urge to do more we felt with this drug, to the best of our knowledge.
We take our last dose of the binge at around 4PM, perhaps 10mg+- 3mg. I tried to be exact when we did it. Same feelings, and I put the bag in a place I was unable to access for 13 hours at least. Good move on my part as I needed that solid 8 hours of sleep.
I didn't fall out from that 4pm dose with any ease until around 3AM. That's 11 hours from last use to natural sleep. I fiended right up until around 12midnight, a solid 6 hours of a very strong desire to do more. Again, it felt like crashing off coke and feeling like you need more for 6 hours straight without feeling high with the feeling slowly going away in the 7th and 8th hours. No remarkable residual affects were present after 8 hours had passed since the last dose.
The serotonin component after 48 hours of using and 55 total hours awake did not affect my mood the next day and I felt genuinely at standard sober baseline with 8 hours of sleep. Drew expressed nothing different. The GH somehow got a ride and bounced while we were asleep. She's Shaken, not stirred.
The fiending urge lasted until every single after effect wears off, a total of 8 hours, and it didn't start seriously diminishing until a solid 6 hours after my last dose. That's how I experienced it, and that's how Drew experienced it, and we're quite experienced in experiences. The GF got roophied with 30 milligrams of an anti psychotic and I have no idea what she experienced other than an Amphetamine Psychosis and she braved out crazy side effects like a nutjob, despite the ability to get rid of them.
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