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Beautiful Experience Through Thick and Thin
2C-E, 2C-I, MDMA & Changa
Citation:   gardening logician. "Beautiful Experience Through Thick and Thin: An Experience with 2C-E, 2C-I, MDMA & Changa (exp92149)". Feb 17, 2018.

T+ 0:00
1 glass oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine (liquid)
  T+ 0:00 1 tablet oral Codeine (pill / tablet)
  T+ 0:40 1 capsl oral 2C-E (capsule)
  T+ 0:50 1 line insufflated 2C-I (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:50 90 mg oral MDMA (powder / crystals)
  T+ 0:00 1 glass oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine (liquid)
  T+ 0:00   inhaled Nitrous Oxide (gas)
  T+ 0:00 1 line insufflated Ketamine (powder / crystals)
  T+ 6:00   smoked Changa  
Prefix: In my previous experience of members of the 2c family, individual tolerances seem hugely different even from first use, and mine has always been high. I normally experience fewer visuals and shorter trip duration than other people. I had taken 2ci or 2cb 5 or 6 times before the experience described (insufflated on all but 1 occasion), but never 2ce. My friend had not done anything like that before (and was a bit afraid of psychedelics from a bad time on LSD. We both went through our year of MDMA novelty over 5 years ago.

The action takes place on Sunday night of secret garden party festival, with some irrelevant details changed. I made a pseudorandom selection of a letter, so will call my friend U. Apologies for length.

At 8pm we ate a small meal followed by at can of cider each, then I had a tablet of codeine given to me by a nice lady in a nearby tent for psychedelic-induced nausea (which I suffer from on most trips). I had none at any point of this experience, so I'll certainly try the codeine trick again.

At around 8.40 I ate the 2ce capsule; a standard gel capsule around 1/4 full of powder which I was sold as a dose a for an experienced user or 2 people. At 8.50 we snorted our 2ci, with my friend having a bit over twice as much as me to make up for the 2ce capsule. Immediately afterwards, we each ate a bomb of MDMA (apprx 90mg). We spent the 5-10 minutes of nasal pain following our lines in my tent, where I assured U it was worth it.

By the time the pain subsided, we were becoming exuberant, and so headed off to the arena. A group of 3 lads asked us to stop for a cider, and although we REALLY felt like walking in, they talked us into the drink. Afterwards, U was gripped by an irresistible impulse for rave paint so the five of us went back to my tent to paint each other before setting off with a third drink at around 9.40. We chatted a lot on the way, and were lucid, capable of holding intelligent conversation, but grinning from ear to ear. We were both jokey and mischievous and kept laughing (esp myself). When the lads wanted to go and dance, we bid them a friendly farewell because we had such a strong desire to walk and take in our surroundings. No extreme visuals, but everything was physically and intellectually profoundly beautiful. We walked for hours with our arms round each others shoulders and no desire to do otherwise. A slightly stronger but much more spiritual and mellow high than the MDMA alone (even when we'd first started doing pills). After about 10pm, I started to come up onto the 2ce, and became even more struck by the beauty of things. U (an experienced drug user) was amazed by how good the trip was, I was delighted it was similar to when I took 2cb with MDMA at a festival but more intense. I got some visuals (e.g a bit of warping and trailing) when (and only when) the 2ce kicked in, and became very mildly disorientated but still mobile and coherent.

U and I had only just started being friends again. We had lost touch for 5 years after spending the previous 2 as drug buddies in love in a very intense way and pushing each other away instead of getting together. So as time went on, we started to say all the things we hadn't said, and apologise for treating each other badly. At around midnight we headed back towards the tent because we were more interested in each other than our surroundings. We noticed by the time we got halfway home that we were both weeping silently with emotion. I started to get visuals from the 2ce by the time we headed for home. We were in a very good place.

When we reached our tents, we found someone had ransacked mine for all the bedding. This included an item that has done twenty festivals with me, been my constant companion through so many special experiences, and was therefore of huge emotional value. I could have just curled up in my bedding and forgotten about it if it had been money or valuables, but my tent was cold and empty. I really cared about it, esp since I was already so emotional, and although I was devasted, I didn't have a bad trip in the slightest. The drugs helped rather than hindered the situation. U searched through the campsite and found a trail of my things, inside which I'd hidden my K and changa. She asked our neighbours if they'd seen anything, and found and persuaded me to wear most of my clothes, as I had become a bit inert through loss. The lovely man next door came round with a balloon to cheer me up and rolled my changa for us (he had a drug test due so didn't want to share). We took a small line of K each as he did so.

Around 2 am now. Neither of us had taken changa before. It did nothing to U!?! When she passed it to me, I saw the whisps of smoke still coming out of her mouth swirl into a beautiful coloured cloud, as if she were a friendly dragon. Then I was transported into another reality there aren't words for, full of light and beautiful shapes and feelings. I'm afraid I can't describe it better than some beautiful other reality, which was extremely unlike the normal one. When I could speak, I didn't get much beyond 'wow' and 'THAT did nothing to you??????' One of the best things I've done, and I've done a lot of things in a lot of combinations. U gave me the whole rollie because it did that to me and nothing to her, so I went back again a couple of times, both just as good. She took another 80mg of MDMA, and wanted to go out again. I think I could have done if it hadn't been for my tent being ransacked, but I went all grateful and apologetic. I'd have taken the other MDMA with her if I was moving, as the 2ci had worn off for U, and I was on the 2ce and with some effects from the changa. We went to bed in her tent at around 3/3.30.

We were up at 7 (I still had some visuals but U didn't), and packed up. I thought I wasn't ready to move, but after I got up I felt pretty good. I looked again for the bedding, she helped me pack, we ate breakfast, and we were off site a bit after 9. She normally gets comedowns even from MDMA, but we never had them. In fact we felt better than we usually would after that much sleep, and not even lazy the next day.

In conclusion:
1) The 2ci/2ce + MDMA trip was special and beautiful.
2) Something happened which would have even have destroyed me sober and it didn't turn bad.
3) Changa (or maybe MDMA + 2ce + K + changa) is amazing and among my favourite things since then but I lack the erudition to describe it properly
4) No comedown at all
5) It all made us both realise why it is we do drugs, after having got bored/jaded with them before this happened.
6) YES!

Exp Year: 2010ExpID: 92149
Gender: Female 
Age at time of experience: 20
Published: Feb 17, 2018Views: 1,466
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