Not Going to Consume Again
Citation:   m1fan. "Not Going to Consume Again: An Experience with bk-MBDB (exp95788)". Jun 21, 2012.

T+ 0:00
150 mg   bk-MBDB
  T+ 2:00 75 mg   bk-MBDB
  T+ 2:00   repeated smoked Cannabis
Chemical experience: Experimented with many chemicals, in recent years have done Cannabis (daily), mushrooms, bk-MDMA, Adderall, Vyvanse, LSD, 4-FA, MXE

Set/Setting: At my apartment, Saturday before Finals week, had a bit of a headache and was out of adderall, so looked to this due to its supposed similarity to bk-MDMA, which I was quite a fan of, and thought it would be a good “get things done while enjoying myself” drug to take with my GF.

Took the chemical on a partially full belly (had eaten a hamburger roughly 15 minutes before or so, wasn't stuffed or anything). As I came up, I laid back in bed, just as I like to on bk-MDMA. Within a couple minutes (maybe 15?) , I was definitely feeling it, as was my girlfriend. I felt very excited, and actually almost identical to how I do on bk-MDMA. Very entactogenic feelings in the beginning, we immediately began to have a very deep conversation, although it didn't last for a long time, we just really got to the core of the issue and resolved it within a few minutes, and moved on from there.

From here, we went out for a cigarette. On most uppers/RCs, I constantly crave a cigarette, and am almost uncomfortable if I'm not smoking. This was the case with bk-MBDB, however, smoking was very unenjoyable (they tasted bad, didn't like the feeling), but it was still better than not smoking.

On bk-MDMA, I consistently have a couple hours where I am very extroverted, then a couple hours of what I call “quiet time”. This is a feeling of wanting to talk and communicate, but not really knowing what to say, and getting really “in my head”. On bk-MBDB, I had a couple minutes of energy and non-stop talking, and then I'd have about half an hour to an hour of “quiet time”, and then something would trigger me into talking non-stop for a short while, and it would cycle through like that. I felt a strange separation between my internal thoughts and external actions, like that I wanted to sit down and figure out what I had to get done (because my thoughts were going everywhere), but also that I wanted to quit thinking and just run for hours. To try to knock myself out of this “quiet time”, we bumped another 75mg a piece after about 2 hours on the drug.

Furthermore, I had very little bladder control on this drug. I was urinating every half an hour or so – definitely not one that I would take at a club. I had some stomach aches. And, on a little more graphic note, I defecated green slime twice on the drug, and once more in the morning that followed.

After a couple hours on the substance alone, I smoked a bowl. This helped my stomach pains a little bit, but mostly I just got this weird feeling that this chemical would be much more pleasant if the ratio of marijuana to bk-MBDB in my system was more skewed towards the marijuana. At this point, as well as thoughout the night, I was completely unable to stand still, so we went for a walk. Conveniently, a friend of mine called us, wanting to smoke a blunt (really convenient timing, it was just after I decided I wanted to smoke a lot of cannabis, but had no means of doing so).

On the way to smoke this blunt, I had to buy wraps at a gas station. I was totally fine, absolutely zero suspicion from anybody that I was on drugs, and I was not worried at all. It was very functional in that sense.

Once I got very high, I lost that guilty feeling I was having about not getting any of the work done that I wanted to (although I had cleaned my apartment a little and done laundry). My stomach also started to feel a bit better as I laid down, but I had a really weird headache come on. It was seemingly centered in the core of the left-hand side of my brain, and for some reason I felt as though my brain was glitching. I think this may have been a high-manifestation of my body trying to tell me that this was not the chemical for me, but I'm not really sure. It was definitely weird.

This next morning, I have not had the hangover I would usually have on bk-MDMA. However, due to the poor experience I had (although it wasn't overwhelmingly negative, just uncomfortable), I won't be putting this substance in my body ever again. My girlfriend did seem to enjoy it, and she was much more productive than me, but she had also eaten quite a bit more than me shortly before we took the drug.

All things considered, it wasn't the worst in the world, but it was very far from the best.

Exp Year: 2011ExpID: 95788
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 19
Published: Jun 21, 2012Views: 10,852
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