We Gave Up on the Map and Let the Dog Lead Us
by Ganesh
Citation:   Ganesh. "We Gave Up on the Map and Let the Dog Lead Us: An Experience with 4-AcO-DMT (exp96284)". Erowid.org. Sep 3, 2018. erowid.org/exp/96284

T+ 0:00
3 g oral Harmala Alkaloids (seeds)
  T+ 0:30 16 mg oral 4-AcO-DMT  
  T+ 4:00 2 joints/cigs smoked Cannabis (plant material)


Synthesized shrooms

Initially I had been looking for a cheaper, more intense alternative to magic mushrooms. I stumbled upon 4 Aco DMT and decided to give it a try. This report is of my second experience.

I was taking 4 Aco DMT with two other friends, both of whom had some experience with psychedelics and we decided to take a hike into the woods. 30mins before dropping we each dosed 3grams of Harman seeds (a natural MAOI) to enhance and intensify the 4 Aco DMT.

T+30 mins Noticeable body buzz. I began to feel very relaxed and found myself struggling to continue hiking.

T+60mins We decide to step off the trail and bathe in the sun on a rock. We listened to music and enjoyed the euphoric feeling. I found myself closing my eyes and analyzing every aspect of the music. My friends both observed the clouds. They described being able to perceive the different levels of clouds and how each one lay upon the other in the sky.

T+120mins We climb to the top of a fire tower and observe the scenery. I feel very at one with nature and a strong relationship to both of my friends. We have not conversed a lot this entire trip (unusual for us) because we have all been caught up in our own thoughts. Visuals are present however I must look for them. Colors are more intense and vibrant and my auditory senses are enhanced.

T+210mins. We come to a state park and desperately need water. We found ourselves looking at a small map on an iphone only to observe the contour lines to be moving and fluid. We gave up on the map and decided to let our dog lead the way. All three of us observed that planning any sort of schedule was useless and very frustrating due to the fact that we continued to be sidetracked.

T+ 240mins. We wonder back into the woods and sit on a log and relax. After smoking two marijuana cigarettes I felt much more relaxed. I was able to control my thoughts a little more and I didnít find myself falling into rambling memories. Instead the burnout of 4 Aco DMT started to come over me. I felt a 1000 yard stare taking me over and intense relaxation.

T+ 300mins. Most of the effects have stopped however my mind continues to race. My body is very burnt out and sore.

The most important aspect of this trip which I have observed both times I have taken 4 Aco DMT is that there is something very unsettling about it. Throughout the trip I felt like I needed something, something was missing. Smoking pot helps quench this feeling, but the feeling returns soon after. I am by no means uncomfortable, but rather seeking new ideas to satisfy this feeling. In comparison with magic mushrooms, this is much more relaxed. 4 Aco DMT doesnít give the nauseating stomach cramps, or even puking.

In conclusion the trip was very successful, however the unsettling feeling I experienced makes me want to try it once more to pinpoint the exact description.

Exp Year: 2012ExpID: 96284
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 18 
Published: Sep 3, 2018Views: 729
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