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....This is Definitely Not Molly
Bad/Suspect Ecstasy
by rainmaker
Citation:   rainmaker. "....This is Definitely Not Molly: An Experience with Bad/Suspect Ecstasy (exp96303)". Sep 20, 2017.

T+ 0:00
24 oz oral Alcohol - Beer/Wine  
  T+ 0:00   repeated smoked Tobacco - Cigarettes  
  T+ 0:00   oral Bad/Suspect Ecstasy (powder / crystals)
  T+ 2:00 0.5 mg oral Unknown (capsule)
  T+ 0:00   repeated smoked Cannabis  
  T+ 0:00 2 tablets oral Pharms - Alprazolam  


Cannabis Alcohol beer Mephedrone 4-methylmethcathinone unknown substituted phenethylamine suspected 2C-x-FLY MDMA pure crystal s

My experience with psychoactive substances has spanned nearly every category over the years and has largely been recreational rather than spiritual or entheogenic, although I do enjoy the life-changing 'finding yourself' experience every once in awhile. I never really smoked weed until after high school but did have a brief coke problem the summer before senior year when someone got me hooked on freebase. Got off the shit no problem once I realized I had run out of money and haven't had any problems with addiction since. I smoked PCP once that summer and had quite a few experiences with ecstasy as well. After graduating I tried pretty much anything out of curiosity. Never liked opiates at all, ditto for other depressants and most stims but fell in love with psychedelics quickly.

Besides those mentioned I've tried at some time or another: morphine, codeine, hydro/oxycodone, oxymorphone, fentanyl, Kratom, alprazolam, lorazepam, diazepam, klonazepam, tenazepam, methaqualone, zolpidem, Ketamine, Methoxetamine, Nitrous, DXM, GHB, amphetamine, methamphetamine, pure MDMA and MDA as well as plenty of pills containing god knows what, 4-FA, 4-FMA, Methcathinone, Mephedrone, Methylone, 2C-E, 2C-P, 2C-T-21, DOM, Mescaline, LSD, DMT, and 4-AcO-DMT.

On this particular occasion 2 friends of mine (V and G) and my little brother wanted to check out a rave in the city. I love to go out dancing all night but I'm 21 and these guys aren't so it was a chance to show the younger guys a good time even though I'm not into the rave scene (love the music and atmosphere, but kandi ruined it for me). Anyway I decide I'll drive to the city since I'm not drinking and have work at 10 the next morning, so we get on the highway. Half an hour later we're in the city and I call my friend T for some molly and end up at a pretty nice apartment I've never been to before, surprised to find it full of my close friends. There was great music and company so we decide to chill for a little while. My best friend C is there and lays down a fat line of molly for me and hands me a beer, we talk for a while and his girlfriend joins us for a cigarette. After the guys I came with decide it's time to check out the rave, I almost forget why I'm there in the first place. T says he ran out of molly earlier but the guy who lives at the apartment had some. T introduces me and the guy lets a half gram go for 40$. I was a little apprehensive given that I knew T had pure crystals and this shit looked like any other sketchy white powder but by that point we were more in a hurry than anything and I didn't think twice.

Apparently, this guy had been fucked up on chems for days and had been selling laced mephedrone as molly... Long story that was revealed to me the next day by a very close friend and trusted source who was at the location and witnessed the dealer mixing at least two bags of RC's into the bag that was sold to my friends and I. I was told that the unknown agent in the mix was bromo-dragonfly or more specifically 'DOB-FLY' which I've not heard of or read about at all but would be identical to bromo-dragonfly on a molecular level if I'm not mistaken. Whatever this guy laced the stuff with, he definitely overdid it...

We had to get back on the highway for a few minutes to get to the rave, so my brilliant idea was to just dip into the bag on the way and hopefully be rolling by the time we got in. I knew by the taste instantly that the molly was cut to shit or something besides molly. I definitely took more than the other 3 guys but obviously it was not measured precisely. I'm estimating about 200mg to myself.

[Erowid Note: Driving while intoxicated, tripping, or extremely sleep deprived is dangerous and irresponsible because it endangers other people. Don't do it!]

About 20 minutes passed before we were looking for parking and I realized I was already rolling HARD. Seemed weird considering that I'm a big guy and hadn't done much, plus it hadn't even been half an hour. I felt good though, and asked the guys if they were rolling. My Brother D and V say not really but I look at G and his pupils are the size of dimes. He's never done Molly before and has a grin running from ear to ear. In the five minute walk to the venue, D and V feel it kick in. I chugged a bottle of water before we got in. We pay our cover and as soon as the raver girl puts my wristband on I start to feel nausea come on. This was my first alert that maybe I took something funny.

I realize that I'm probably gonna puke and start looking for a restroom. When I get into the bathroom I feel a little better and decide to wait in line for the one and only stall rather than make a scene by barfing into a trash can. I calm down a little but realize I'm sweating way too much and before I knew it the water bottle I just chugged sprays across the restroom.
I'm sweating way too much and before I knew it the water bottle I just chugged sprays across the restroom.
I feel horrible that I got some on the wall and the guy that hands out paper towels but luckily I didn't have anything else in my stomach besides half a beer. I apologize profusely to the paper towel guy, tell him I just drank too much water and give him a nice tip. He has me sit down on his stool and keeps handing me paper towels to wipe the sweat away. I was freaking out in there for a good 20 minutes but eventually collect myself and realize I'm okay and I'm here to dance and have a good time. I find my friends and make sure they're fine. G looks like he's rolling way too hard but says he's fine and feels amazing. D and V look like they were having a good time but definitely didn't look as messed up as G and myself.

After dancing for about an hour and smoking a bowl with everyone on the dance floor, I decide it's time to go out for fresh air. I found a fire escape and met some cool people, we smoke a few cigarettes and talk about random stuff for a while, and eventually I decided I feel like dancing again. I remember getting a light show which was especially memorable because of the gorgeous girl that gave it to me. I never even got her name, she was rolling too hard to even talk and looked completely cross eyed but besides that nothing much happened.

About 2 hours after we had arrived I bought a cap of molly and split it with G since we were having a great time. It turned out to be methylone (I could tell from the taste, and had heard from people out on the fire escape that m1 was all over this particular rave) I wasn't expecting methylone but didn't have a problem with having gotten ripped off, since it felt good and added a little trippiness to the experience.

However, not too long after the methylone kicked in, they turned on the lights and shut the place down and I realized the slight trippiness was turning into something more, and whatever was mixed in the 'molly' from way earlier was really starting to kick in. I decide to find my car and drive my brother home fast before it hit me too hard. G and V decide to stay and find a ride to the after party, so we leave and I manage to get myself and D home in about 25 minutes without speeding or freaking out (keep in mind I was not really tripping at this point but I knew that anything which took 3+ hours to kick in was probably going to be bad news if I had waited until later to drive). It's good I left when I did because I started tripping hard just 10 minutes after I got home.

My friend C from earlier was waiting at my house with a few joints to calm me down. This was when he told me that about the weird dealer and how he had actually given us mephedrone that was mixed with something else. I felt calmer having an explanation for why everything had felt so weird and started to enjoy the trip. It wasn't overly intense but I definitely wasn't expecting it to last so long. Knowing I had work in a few hours, I ask C for 2 of his xanax thinking it would kill the trip.

The benzos had no effect whatsoever on me, I was still in a distinctly substituted amphetamine-type bug-eyed retarded state of mind when I realized I had to get ready for work and had spent the last 2 hours chain-smoking cigarettes. I remember freaking out about how big my pupils were in the bathroom but once I started driving to work and got into sunlight, they constricted quite a bit and It didn't bother me as much. I realized that when concentrating on work tasks I was relatively straight but whenever I lost concentration it became blatantly obvious that I was still tripping and suddenly experienced full blown visuals until I got busy again. I was so paranoid all day that someone would notice my pupils, but nobody said anything. I never really felt a 'come-down' but I know that it didn't fully wear off until well after 30 hours, and the afterglow lasted nearly a week. No headaches to speak of but just a mildly dissociated feeling kind of like the feeling I get when DMT starts to wear off.

Whatever we took, It was not unpleasant but had much too long a duration of action and basically no entheogenic value as far as I'm concerned. Not mind expanding or even very visual but more just a substance which made me retarded and confused for the better part of 2 days. The visuals were nothing special and I didn't like the confused feeling it gave me. I didn't really see the value and by the 6 hour mark I was extremely bored with the experience and just wished it would either end or get more interesting. It never did. Sleep deprivation made the visuals a little more interesting the second night but I eventually passed out for an hour or two and woke up still feeling it pretty hard. It wore off at some point that afternoon.

I honestly don't think I gained anything from this experience except more skepticism when it comes to purchasing 'molly', however, if anything let my stupid behavior serve as a reminder to everyone reading that even though it's not common, people do sell laced shit sometimes and you can really get messed up with some of the RC's going around...Buy a milligram scale and know exactly what you're taking! The legality and availability of these chemicals is both a blessing in the right hands and a curse in the wrong ones. Its been two decades since PiHKAL came out and somehow most of these substances are still quasi-legal, but they're gaining popularity fast, and not always with the right crowd. Stay safe!

Exp Year: 2012ExpID: 96303
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 21 
Published: Sep 20, 2017Views: 3,249
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