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Reclaim Your Brain, and Then Some
Oxiracetam, Vinpotecine, Picamilon & Supplements
by Stax
Citation:   Stax. "Reclaim Your Brain, and Then Some: An Experience with Oxiracetam, Vinpotecine, Picamilon & Supplements (exp99099)". Erowid.org. Nov 4, 2024. erowid.org/exp/99099

 
DOSE:
400 - 800 mg oral Smarts - Oxiracetam  
  400 - 800 mg oral Vitamins - Choline  
  30 - 60 mg oral Vinpocetine  
  30 - 60 mg oral Picamilon  
  12.5 - 25 mg oral DHEA  
  12.5 - 25 mg oral Ginkgo biloba  
    oral Vitamins / Supplements  
    smoked Tobacco - Cigarettes  
    oral Coffee (daily)
BODY WEIGHT: 160 lb
To begin with, I am well above average in terms of health, intelligence, and quick cognition. I socialize as much as possible, make friends easily, am well learned and traveled, successful, and normally in very good spirits.

After a very damaging break-up, I found myself mired in a deep depression that typically lasted four to six months based on previous experiences (same girl), which led to excessive sleep, bouts of alcoholism, lack of energy, brain fog, and a general souring of mood and sudden disgust for humanity, as well as avoidance of many of the things I loved.

I wanted to get back to the old me. I had never taken tropes/smarts or many vitamins, though I did smoke and drink socially, sometimes to excess. So after careful research and consideration, I decided to try a full-on assault on my malaise and mood, and decided on the following cocktail, three times daily. A good friend of mine is a neurologist, and I consulted my friend regarding the upcoming regimen before I began it.

Oxiracetam 800mg with 800mg Choline Bitartrate to support the ‘racetam.
Fish/Krill oil 300mg for extra mood control plus misc fats for fat solubility
Vinpotecine 60mg
Picamilon 60mg
Coffee/Tea 2 average cups
Multivitamin
DHEA 25mg
L-Carnatine 250mg
Ginko Biloba 25mg

I prepared by avoiding alcohol for 3 days, cutting cigarettes down to 2 per day, limited caffeine intake to 1 cup, ate a balanced diet and exercised, and noted different things like perceived mental acuity, reaction times, energy levels, sleep patterns, and other miscellaneous minutiae. I hadn’t accomplished a damn thing in weeks other than what I couldn’t avoid.

Oxiracetam alone, in three 800mg doses (with Choline Bitartrate which is supposed to help you absorb it) over three days, made a noticeable difference in mood, quick thinking, and commitment to action. I took two days to get back to baseline, and while energy went back to baseline, I maintained a better mood and found I had a clearer mind. I decided to ramp it up, so that’s when I did the full cocktail. When coupled with everything else, it was a dramatic difference; others noticed and commented. Anything over approximately 1200mg in a single dose made me jittery and unable to finish what I was doing for a time, even listening to a whole song was torturous.

Pros – It certainly helped lift brain fog, gave me seemingly boundless energy, and I was more aware, faster, and more fun and enjoying everything I did. I find myself constantly seeking something challenging, and my mood is dramatically improved all around, I can crack a joke or a smile at any situation. Dreams are often lucid or partially so, as well as much more profound, and I remember most of them vividly. If I focus on something, I get it done, but it does NOT help me focus on what I SHOULD be doing, although it gives me the clarity to rethink priorities.

Cons – It definitely made me more competitive with myself and others, yet distant emotionally, and I care not for negativity or trivial matters. A few friends asked if I was on something, so the change was noticeable, although I did disclose what I was taking, I don’t think one or two of them really believed me. Also, I do not care much for what anyone thinks or says. The effect is not as noticeable now as it was the first week or so, yet even when I am off them now, I still have a sort of ‘afterglow’; even after stopping them for a week, I still had more energy, cognizance, drive, and a generally better appreciation and outlook. I also noticed I have to keep moving and things that normally don’t bother me or are slight ‘time outs’ annoyed the heck out of me, like traffic, or smoking a cigarette, which I would light, puff as quickly as I could, and toss before I was half done with it. Also it does make me rather distant when it comes to emotions, and I have to be careful so as to avoid insomnia. Anything over 1200mg makes me way to fidgety to complete anything for four or five hours and usually gives me a headache, elevated heart rate, and I tend to grind my teeth or clench my jaw. Phenylracetam does nothing but give me a massive headache and ramp up my heart rate, and I can only take 400mg of Aniracetam without the jaw clenching, headaches, and fidgeting effects, with little positives. All the 'racetams make me emotionally distant, and my alcohol tolerance seems increased.

This below is all in regards to the full cocktail of supplements and nootropics listed above.

Taken after a small meal at 8AM. T+1 I noticed I felt alert, energized as if I had had three or four cups of coffee, and had accomplished most of what I needed done before noon. By 10AM I was completely caught up, and decided to clean my desk area and my storage room. T+4, or noon, I took dosage number two, and continued to work jamming out to music, now getting ahead of myself, for another hour before realizing I was wasting time when I could be doing something else.

Around 1PM I headed home early, attacked the brake installation I had been putting off on my sports car, and decided to strip clean the house because I had begun to text and call friends inviting them over. I hadnt socialized since the aforementioned breakup, or even wanted to. This suddenly seemed necessary and natural. I remembered details of things/drinks/music they liked/disliked, funny things I wanted to tell them, etc. Sometime around 3PM, with the house clean, brakes replaced, etc, I realized I had not thought once about my ex, and was surprised that the feeling I had regarding the whole thing was irrelevant. By 5PM I had bought and set out most everything, dosed the same mix again, and was annoyed that I had nothing to do and no new music to listen to. It was at this point I noticed I was moving at a rather frantic pace, although my heart rate seemed normal, maybe a bit elevated, and I was rhyming words or trying to sing songs in other languages I know just to see if I could.

By 6PM people started showing up, by 8PM there were 12 of us, most of them I had avoided for months. I remember almost every detail, and found myself wittier, funnier, and happier; engaged. I got a few comments on my odd behavior (mostly asking if I had met a new girl). It was a Friday night, and this was when I made a big mistake; I suggested we all go out to a few local bars.

I can drink a damn lot more on this stuff. Normally my tolerance is medium at best; but I was still coherent, funny, rhyming and basically acting like a 20 year old with twice my normal alcohol tolerance level, and yet I was completely aware of myself, surroundings, and all that transpired, when normally I would have been dead tired, gone home and crashed. It has a definite stimulant effect on me, and I have found I drink way too much when on this mix. I didnt stumble or trip over words or my own feet, but I knew I was definitely past my normal limits; I didn't care because it wasn't important.

At one bar I ran into a woman I had a thing for but never really pursued; suddenly it became quite fun to flirt with her friends, make her jealous, and try to get to her, making it an obvious joke I was ignoring her and they eventually came back with us to my place around midnight. We ended up sleeping together after an incredible conversation and great time. The next morning, with a severe hangover, I was still feeling good and not giving a damn about my hangover; it was like I could just shelve it and go on, where normally I would have stayed in bed or the shower most of the day, and decided to cook the remaining people breakfast about 6AM, then go for a jog in the crisp morning air, leaving notes about the food and how to reheat it for everyone. I took my camera; I hadn’t touched my SLR in two years.

After a few weeks of on/off experimentation in dosages and mixtures, I cut the dosages in half
After a few weeks of on/off experimentation in dosages and mixtures, I cut the dosages in half
, and stuck with only the Vinpotecine, Picamilon, Choline Bitartrate, L-Carnatine, DHEA, and Oxiracetam. I quit smoking after 6 years because it was annoying that I couldn’t do anything else but smoke and it was winter and I had to smoke outside, and when I am on them I DEFINITELY avoid alcohol, as I can keep drinking well beyond where I should stop.

After 3 months of on/off usage, I can say they have changed my life. I got laid that first night thanks to the sudden need to socialize and have a good time and do SOMETHING, and realized I had been neglecting a lot of good relationships while being on a downer kick over a bad relationship. I have since quit smoking, applied for and got accepted to a masters degree program, found myself doing things I always intended to but never really meant to or just because I suddenly had free time, and made more connections and reconnections with old friends, quit my job due to relocation because of school, and decided to start my own business which has nothing to do with my degree. The best part is I can remember things so much quicker, and its like I have a full clip of possible words to fit into a sentence at my disposal rather than hunting for any word that will do. English is my second (of four) languages, and I have seen a dramatic improvement in my communication skills across all levels. Things are terribly interesting again, and whatever needs done, gets done. I don’t get upset and find myself laughing hysterically at trivial issues that I would normally have let sour my mood. I found myself making time to travel again, even if it was only quick trips, because I needed something challenging or to meet new people. The woman I am now dating has since tried some of the nootropes with slightly different but overall positive effects.

I can definitely say the experience, the first time, was the strongest, and overall positive, despite the fact I felt like my emotions were neutered. For me its like comparing a clear day when you feel great to a mild hangover or the first day of a crappy cold; when your mind is all muddled. I have been switching Oxiracetam with Piracetam, Aniracetam, and Pramiracetam as I read you become tolerant to the same ‘racetam’ over time, hence the stagger and on/off time, and alcohol is, for me, nowhere near a possibility, although it does not alter my girlfriends’ limits, perceived or otherwise, so I avoid alcohol when on the mix. Of all the 'racetams, the Oxi seems to have greatest effect.

Exp Year: 2012ExpID: 99099
Gender: Male 
Age at time of experience: 28
Published: Nov 4, 2024Views: 32
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Smarts - Oxiracetam (565), Vinpocetine (162), Picamilon (322), Vitamins / Supplements (231), Vitamins - Choline (467) : Various (28), Therapeutic Intent or Outcome (49), Performance Enhancement (50), Glowing Experiences (4), Retrospective / Summary (11), Combinations (3)

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