Citation: naura. "Positive and Transforming: An Experience with Huasca Combo (Syrian Rue & DMT) & Mushrooms (exp82908)". Erowid.org. Jun 23, 2018. erowid.org/exp/82908
I am a relatively experienced user of psychedelics, including LS*, shrooms, san pedro, DMT, 2C-*, DO*, *huasca, MDMA, etc. etc. I handle myself pretty well on psychedelics, and like to trip hard (or at least, harder than most of the people I know - I usually take 4 hits of acid or 4 grams of shrooms).
Two good friends and I decided to trip. They were going to do acid, but as I had used it very recently I didn't want to do it again so soon. I followed the MAOI diet for 3 days prior to this experience (I'm vegan, and abstained from alcohol and all tyramine-containing foods). We tripped at my apartment, which is a comfortable, secure, and stimulating place to trip (in my biased opinion). I was in a very good frame of mind, as I had accomplished a lot at work earlier in the day. My girlfriend, who lives with me, was our sober sitter.
I had 2.1g of dried P. cubensis mushrooms lying around. I also had a capsule of harmala extract (from rue seeds) that my friend gave me. He said that one capsule would be enough to potentiate shrooms, but I don't know the exact dosage or purity. In addition, I had a few grams of the rue seeds themselves, and perhaps 100mg of DMT. The shrooms themselves were not that strong: I ate 2.3g of them along with 1g of more potent Copelandia shrooms two weeks ago, and did not trip as hard as I would have liked.
For this trip, I thought that MAOI + Shrooms (aka 'Shroomahuasca') would be a good experience. I had done this once before and was disappointed, as I did not take enough MAOI to potentiate properly. I was unsure the experience would be strong enough this time either, so I decided to add a dash of DMT to the mix. I don't have a .00(0) scale, so I don't know how much I used, but I would estimate 80mg.
T+0:00: I took the MAOI capsule and made an extraction of some of the rue seeds to ensure that I took enough MAOI. My friends each dropped one hit of acid.
T+0:40: I was feeling the MAOI now. I took the shrooms, ground them up in a coffee grinder, and threw them in a glass of water. I also tapped ~80mg DMT (eyeballed) into the glass. I drank this down over 10 minutes, with the aid of marijuana for nausea. My friends took another hit of acid each.
T+1:00: I am already feeling the effects. My body feels very light, and I have a strong urge to lie down. This normally happens to me on DMT.
I have a strong urge to lie down. This normally happens to me on DMT.
Visuals are beginning and intensifying: space is distorted, HUGE, forms are bold and sharp and colorful. CEV's are present also. All of this looks like DMT visuals, despite the fact that I took a decent dose of shrooms. Of course, since I first did DMT, shroom visuals have always had a similar character... but this looked like straight DMT.
T+1:30: The effects are much stronger. Now I mainly notice the effects on mood and mind, though the visuals are magnificent (better than the 7 hits of decent acid I took last week). I feel very loving, and tell my friends and girlfriend that I love them. I am overwhelmed by empathy and happiness. I feel a renewed vigor for life, completely wiping away the ambivalence that previously characterized my recent behavior. Music sounds amazing, whether we're listening to electronic music, folk, or metal.
T+1:45: We go outside for a cigarette. My friends are tripping balls (it's very good acid), as am I. Outside is even more beautiful than I thought possible. The vivid, colorful forms of buildings and trees are cut up and interspersed with one another. The sky shows its true magnitude, the stars shine like lasers between the branches. I am still full of love and wonder. The sedation is still present.
T+2:00: I have been thinking and have resolved several things: that I should pursue my interests more fully, that I should work harder for the betterment of the world, that I should tell all my friends that I love them. I feel renewed, transformed. I feel a spiritual sense of awe at the experience that is transpiring. I take a huge bong-rip, and this causes the latent nausea inside me to swell up, and I run to the bathroom and vomit. Afterwards, I feel cleansed, and smoke more weed to settle my stomach.
T+2:30: The effects are beginning to wane, and I feel a deep sadness, as the precious and wonderful state I was in slips away.
I feel a deep sadness, as the precious and wonderful state I was in slips away.
It's a similar feeling to coming down off mdma, as the beautiful state melts away into the night. I believe this is due to the DMT wearing off, but am not sure.
T+3:00: Though the effects are much less pronounced now, I still have visuals and an emotional afterglow. The lessons I learned, and the attitude the experience catalyzed, remain with me, and I try to hold on to them and fix them in my brain, for I am convinced of their necessity. My friends are still tripping really hard. We all talk and listen to music and smoke cigarettes and enjoy each other's company.
T+9:00: We part ways, and I drive to a friend's house. I feel completely sober and capable of driving, but still have pronounced visuals, which by this point look more shroom-like, with perhaps a faint air of DMT. I think this is the shrooms still working long after the DMT, which makes sense. They're pretty weak in comparison.
T+10:00: I go to sleep without any difficulty.
I have tripped many times, but this was one of the most intense, positive, and transformational experiences I have ever had. It was better than 95% of my acid trips, blows every smoked DMT experience I've ever had out of the water, and makes a box of Amsterdam's (now gone, alas) fresh mushrooms seem 'shallow' or like they can't access/inspire the same positive energy this combination can.
I will do pure pharmahuasca soon, with perhaps 150mg of DMT. I am curious as to the reason the DMT feeling predominated so completely at first, and even remained significant well after the DMT wore off. I'd also like to do pure shroomahuasca and compare that experience to this as well, as I feel I might be giving the shrooms short shrift here.
I wonder what the possible effects of combining this experience with LSD are. From searching, I believe LSD and MAOIs do not interact significantly negatively, and I think LSD would add to this experience without dulling its power, as spice is a hell of a drug. I'd like to get some feedback before trying this, though.
This is an amazing, transformative combination whose positive changes seem long-lasting, sincere, and beautiful. It's like MDMA with DMT visuals and none of that amphetamine-y bullshit.
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